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Hb2238 ammo tax
« on: January 10, 2024, 08:01:08 PM »
https://legiscan.com/WA/bill/HB2238/2023
Anyone have the skinny on this new attempt to tax us more?

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2024, 08:29:29 PM »
Strongly oppose.
I have Man Chit to do

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2024, 08:42:57 PM »
11% additional tax for the “privilege” of using ammunition. Their words.

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2024, 09:11:11 PM »
It's already posted in the Political section,
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,284040.0.html
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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2024, 12:25:13 AM »
Where did you guys think they got the money to give WDFW for biodiversity or whatever it is.
I can't remember 21 million or something.
Thought it was said to come from some tax on "recreational" sporting goods.
Well there you go,you got the skinny.
Then our commission promotes these animal/conservation places.
"Return of the carnivore"
Which brings there groups more donations.
Fills CEO pockets full .
It's all a pyramid scam ,that's all legal till it's not.
All the recent changes have been "carnivore".
I'm about to ask them when there gonna return our mountain caribou to NE Washington.
Wheres that biodiversity?
Sorry for the rant,that post was late at night.
You'd have to fact check my post,I was on one when I posted.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2024, 09:35:20 AM by hunter399 »

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2024, 07:24:10 AM »
adding a public comment is easy. Be sure to point out that Seattle has had a 4x increase in fatal shootings since 2016 when it imposed a similar tax.

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2024, 07:41:45 AM »
My comment to my legislators: "Any tax above sales tax on ammunition will make it harder for lower income citizens to exercise their rights under the Washington and U.S. Constitutions, and the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones from criminal harm. It seems clear that sponsors of this bill wish to discriminate against those in our society who likely most need these rights and the protections they provide to all citizens. We know statistically that the rising violent crime in this state most often negatively affects people earning lower income and our citizens of color. Therefore, this bill should not be considered. We are all supposed to have equal rights under the law. This bill would make those rights inaccessible to those who are most vulnerable in our society. It is shocking that this bill has been introduced. I request that my comments be read into the record."
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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2024, 07:56:25 AM »
Damn you are good

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2024, 08:20:41 AM »
anything for the grabbers to hinder us and making money off it us bonus.... :bash:
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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2024, 10:59:47 AM »
I think you mistakenly put 'hinder'. I am guessing you meant 'eliminate'.
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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2024, 11:07:04 AM »
 :bash: :bash:  Time to put a limit on the time our un-representitives are allow to spend in Olympia!!  Two days is to long!!
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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2024, 12:45:43 PM »
Pman........100% agree. The only addition I can think of is to point out that ammo, firearms and hunting/fishing licenses have additional embedded taxes that fund most if not all wildlife programs. As opposed to taxes NOT being contributed to such programs by the anti-gun, anti-hunting, anti-meat eating "communities".

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2024, 02:09:34 PM »
Already got a response from one of my representatives in agreement for opposing HB2238.

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RE: Comment RR: HB 2238 Ammunition tax (AGAINST)

Low, Rep. Sam
 
From: sam.low@leg.wa.gov
To:

Thu, Jan 11 at 12:29 PM

Brent

I agree with you! Thank you for taking the time to write,

Sam Low

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2024, 02:18:11 PM »
Pman........100% agree. The only addition I can think of is to point out that ammo, firearms and hunting/fishing licenses have additional embedded taxes that fund most if not all wildlife programs. As opposed to taxes NOT being contributed to such programs by the anti-gun, anti-hunting, anti-meat eating "communities".
That is correct. The Pittman-Robertson act includes an 11% excise tax paid on the wholesale cost of ammunition. If ammunition sales are diminished, PR funding for conservation will be diminished.
Nature. It's cheaper than therapy.

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Re: Hb2238 ammo tax
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2024, 02:20:33 PM »
For those of us residing in Seattle, this appears to be a duplication of the current Seattle ammo tax.  That ammo tax pushed all but 1 retailer out of the city.   https://www.nraila.org/articles/20230327/seattles-gun-tax-a-textbook-case-on-the-law-of-inverse-consequences

The businesses who left Seattle also took their B&O and sales tax revenue away from Seattle.  This "golden bullet" to fund anti violence programs ended up falling on its face.  How many businesses will leave the state?  just ignorant and shortsighted.
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