ONP Goat relocation outcome

[fishngamereaper]

Maybe they should of just left them alone
Would probably be the only thriving goat population in the West.
Really disappointing to see these catastrophic failures...

https://www.peninsuladailynews.com/news/few-survivors-remain-after-relocation-to-north-cascades/

[Fidelk]

I've had a huge male walk past me about 25 feet away while hiking on the Switchback Trail on Hurricane Ridge. Saw him coming my way from a half mile out. I yielded the trail to him, just sat and watched. A week later another hiker was gored and killed by an aggressive male. Beautiful animal.

[CarbonHunter]

I've had a huge male walk past me about 25 feet away while hiking on the Switchback Trail on Hurricane Ridge. Saw him coming my way from a half mile out. I yielded the trail to him, just sat and watched. A week later another hiker was gored and killed by an aggressive male. Beautiful animal.

Wow… did the hiker do you wrong?

[KNOPHISH]

I’m thinking the overpopulation of cougars are eating all the goats.

[Bareback]

I hate articles like this. They reek of propaganda and fluff.

The article claims “hunters” introduced the goats, wrong. The government introduced the goats in the interest of hunting.

What would an article be if the term “climate change” wasn’t thrown in? Theoretical reasons for decline, “ Recreation, habitat loss, climate change, disease and predation,.” The last two seem most reasonable. When other populations in the state are doing well, it’s does the climate change/habitat loss merit little justice.

The article seems to be full of finger pointing and the blame game.

But then again I’m may be expecting to much, after all Ta’Leah Van Sistine is an environmental/climate journalist in Everrett.

[raydog]

Thankfully we got rid of the goats to save some moss. Classic government

[Fidelk]

I've had a huge male walk past me about 25 feet away while hiking on the Switchback Trail on Hurricane Ridge. Saw him coming my way from a half mile out. I yielded the trail to him, just sat and watched. A week later another hiker was gored and killed by an aggressive male. Beautiful animal.

Wow… did the hiker do you wrong?

C'mon, man.......it whar a goat......or, something whiter than Anderson Cooper.......plus, humans can't live at that altitude.

[Special T]

I’m thinking the overpopulation of cougars are eating all the goats.

Bingo!

[Sundance]

My beef was, and still is that I’ve never seen 100% scientific proof that mountain goats weren’t native to the Olympics. I never supported to relocation and culling, this only makes my dissatisfaction with the decision stronger.

[jstone]

 

[timberhunter]

This doesn’t surprise me. This whole situation was a joke from the start!

[MR5x5]

So lets see, climate change and habitat loss wiped out the native goats over the course of 7 years.  The entities GPS collard 115 goats to see how they did but don't appear to a have clue at what caused the demise.  Somehow the article gets around to grizzly bear reintroduction referencing a very select area of Montana that has zero bearing on anything.  The Tulalip biologists hope grizzlies will scare people out of the high country.

What a ridiculous agenda driven puff piece.  The author is tool.

[Knocker of rocks]

My beef was, and still is that I’ve never seen 100% scientific proof that mountain goats weren’t native to the Olympics. I never supported to relocation and culling, this only makes my dissatisfaction with the decision stronger.

That is evidence of absence, and it’s considered a logical no go. Just like me asking you to prove that there isn’t a block of cheese orbiting Jupiter.

Archeological evidence showed no sign, or exceeding murky at best, evidence of hunted goats in pre history. There is a book that I own, that I unfortunately haven’t read yet, that argues that goats in fact did inhabit the Olympics in pre-history.

The author is a Washington native and a full professor of anthropology at University of Missouri-Columbia. So one should believe it is based on sound evidence, though not accepted by the majority of other researchers

https://anthropology.missouri.edu/people/lyman

[chukardogs]

Anyone know what kind of cheese it is?

[Fidelk]

I think the highest elevation in the Olympics is about 6000 feet. Don't they prefer to be at much higher elevations?