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HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« on: January 28, 2025, 03:29:03 PM »
I am not sure what to make of this one.  Initially I am suspicious and skeptical.


https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=1685&Year=2025&Initiative=false

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2025, 03:49:26 PM »
I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but basically they want the current commission and the governor (Ferguson) to appoint the new director who is now in charge of a bunch of stuff that the commission was previously in charge of... am I close here?

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2025, 03:55:22 PM »
I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but basically they want the current commission and the governor (Ferguson) to appoint the new director who is now in charge of a bunch of stuff that the commission was previously in charge of... am I close here?
That's how I read it as well.  What could go wrong there :chuckle:
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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2025, 03:56:53 PM »
I’m concerned this part is struck from section 2

((Persons eligible for appointment as director shall have
practical knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and
wildlife. The director shall supervise the administration and
operation of the department and perform the duties prescribed by law
and delegated by the commission. The director shall carry out the
basic goals and objectives prescribed under RCW 77.04.055.)
)
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2025, 03:58:56 PM »
I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but basically they want the current commission and the governor (Ferguson) to appoint the new director who is now in charge of a bunch of stuff that the commission was previously in charge of... am I close here?
That's how I read it as well.  What could go wrong there :chuckle:

A single source of more power appointed directly by the Governor's office. Color me skeptical

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2025, 04:04:31 PM »
That's like deciding to cut off your right arm or your left arm...

I really don't see a good outcome...

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2025, 04:06:01 PM »
I see the word preserve a lot and I’m concerned at all the stuff struck in section five about maximizing opportunity to hunt and fish.
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I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2025, 04:07:08 PM »
I’m concerned this part is struck from section 2

((Persons eligible for appointment as director shall have
practical knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and
wildlife. The director shall supervise the administration and
operation of the department and perform the duties prescribed by law
and delegated by the commission. The director shall carry out the
basic goals and objectives prescribed under RCW 77.04.055.)
)

Pretty odd thing to strike out, unless you plan to destroy the way things have historically been run...
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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2025, 04:07:33 PM »
Also this part where the newly appointed person wouldnt have to abide by the same rules the commission currently feels theyre hamstrung by.

Wildlife, fish, and shellfish are the property of the state. The
((commission, director, and the)) department shall preserve, protect,
perpetuate, and manage the wildlife and food fish, game fish, and
shellfish in state waters and offshore waters.

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2025, 04:11:30 PM »
Press release Gov fergtard.
I'd like to congratulate Lorna Smith on her newly appointed position of Director of the wdfw... :mgun2: :stup: :mgun: :mor: :stirthepot: :ban:

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2025, 05:07:35 PM »
I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but basically they want the current commission and the governor (Ferguson) to appoint the new director who is now in charge of a bunch of stuff that the commission was previously in charge of... am I close here?
No.

What the bill does is make the WDFW Director a position appointed by the governor. The commissions authority will be gutted and essentially turned into an advisory commission for the Director.

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2025, 05:23:05 PM »
Springer and Fitzgibbon. Reps from the 45th and 34th.  What could possibly be their motive?  :chuckle:
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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2025, 06:17:56 PM »
I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but basically they want the current commission and the governor (Ferguson) to appoint the new director who is now in charge of a bunch of stuff that the commission was previously in charge of... am I close here?
No.

What the bill does is make the WDFW Director a position appointed by the governor. The commissions authority will be gutted and essentially turned into an advisory commission for the Director.

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So this is what option #2 in Ruckelshaus report was then?

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2025, 06:26:24 PM »
I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but basically they want the current commission and the governor (Ferguson) to appoint the new director who is now in charge of a bunch of stuff that the commission was previously in charge of... am I close here?
No.

What the bill does is make the WDFW Director a position appointed by the governor. The commissions authority will be gutted and essentially turned into an advisory commission for the Director.

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Got it. So the governor (Bob Ferguson) appoints a director who is bestowed with much of the authority that was previously held by the runaway commission. Said runaway commission then serves as an advisory role to the Ferguson-appointed Director. And here I was concerned  :chuckle:

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Re: HB1685 - WDFW Commission Bill
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2025, 06:48:49 PM »
Ferguson  seems more agnostic on wildlife issues than inslee. I his wife isn't an anti. I see this a little differently.  Not sure it's a good thing but Lorna as director isn't gonna happen.
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