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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #90 on: March 31, 2025, 06:41:00 PM »
There have been over 635 new hires in the last few years in WDFW… almost all have been office people. Almost no game management is being done and what is called management is being done by predators. Mostly by the 4 legged ones.. a cougar was captured in the Ellensburg’s area a couple weeks ago and it was if you can believe this then released in  The Robinson canyon elk feeding area. Another smart move by WDFW personnel..after 70 years of hunting in this state I am now done..there were some great years but they are now over..not only is it over regulated and so poorly managed I can not justify giving them another dime..

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #91 on: March 31, 2025, 07:08:43 PM »
There have been over 635 new hires in the last few years in WDFW… almost all have been office people. Almost no game management is being done and what is called management is being done by predators. Mostly by the 4 legged ones.. a cougar was captured in the Ellensburg’s area a couple weeks ago and it was if you can believe this then released in  The Robinson canyon elk feeding area. Another smart move by WDFW personnel..after 70 years of hunting in this state I am now done..there were some great years but they are now over..not only is it over regulated and so poorly managed I can not justify giving them another dime..

That’s what their banking on
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2025, 07:24:11 PM »
There have been over 635 new hires in the last few years in WDFW… almost all have been office people. Almost no game management is being done and what is called management is being done by predators. Mostly by the 4 legged ones.. a cougar was captured in the Ellensburg’s area a couple weeks ago and it was if you can believe this then released in  The Robinson canyon elk feeding area. Another smart move by WDFW personnel..after 70 years of hunting in this state I am now done..there were some great years but they are now over..not only is it over regulated and so poorly managed I can not justify giving them another dime..

That’s what their banking on
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #93 on: May 08, 2025, 10:02:30 AM »
There have been over 635 new hires in the last few years in WDFW… almost all have been office people. Almost no game management is being done and what is called management is being done by predators. Mostly by the 4 legged ones.. a cougar was captured in the Ellensburg’s area a couple weeks ago and it was if you can believe this then released in  The Robinson canyon elk feeding area. Another smart move by WDFW personnel..after 70 years of hunting in this state I am now done..there were some great years but they are now over..not only is it over regulated and so poorly managed I can not justify giving them another dime..

That’s what their banking on
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Almost in the same place as wahunter but here is what pisses me off. Seniors get a actual discount starting July 1st, But for draws I must pay full Boat :kneel: :kneel: So it will ONLY be deer /elk at first  with the rest in July!
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #94 on: May 08, 2025, 01:16:41 PM »
Just got word a healthy 10% raise is coming to WDFW employees.... :yike:  That's a big one, especially when they are putting it on the backs of sportsman?
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #95 on: May 08, 2025, 03:05:26 PM »
Just got word a healthy 10% raise is coming to WDFW employees.... :yike:  That's a big one, especially when they are putting in on the backs of sportsman?

Silver lining - That could be a nice thing for some positive incentives with new hires. The lack of pay ~2016 in wdfw was a big reason I found a different career path within ecology  :twocents:

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #96 on: May 09, 2025, 08:01:06 AM »
There have been over 635 new hires in the last few years in WDFW… almost all have been office people. Almost no game management is being done and what is called management is being done by predators. Mostly by the 4 legged ones.. a cougar was captured in the Ellensburg’s area a couple weeks ago and it was if you can believe this then released in  The Robinson canyon elk feeding area. Another smart move by WDFW personnel..after 70 years of hunting in this state I am now done..there were some great years but they are now over..not only is it over regulated and so poorly managed I can not justify giving them another dime..

That’s what their banking on
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Almost in the same place as wahunter but here is what pisses me off. Seniors get a actual discount starting July 1st, But for draws I must pay full Boat :kneel: :kneel: So it will ONLY be deer /elk at first  with the rest in July!

Can't complain about a discount, it's not an entitlement.  I'm in the same boat though...
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #97 on: May 09, 2025, 05:19:00 PM »
Just got word a healthy 10% raise is coming to WDFW employees.... :yike:  That's a big one, especially when they are putting it on the backs of sportsman?

Source? 
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #98 on: May 09, 2025, 05:34:47 PM »
Just got word a healthy 10% raise is coming to WDFW employees.... :yike:  That's a big one, especially when they are putting it on the backs of sportsman?

The 10% raise is not across the board for wdfw it’s only the hatchery labor union of roughly 180 employees it was brought on by OFM as a recruitment and retention tool do to the above mentioned of wages not being competitive enough to keep employees it along with the license fee increase we’re not wdfw requests rather OFM and the legislature

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2025, 06:42:08 AM »
Buy your license and tags now so you can save a little money because we’re all going to get bent over when they increase property tax rates from 1 to 3 percent.

The tags aren't any cheaper now than they will be in late summer. The increase will be next year.
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These clowns are full money grab mode. Guess my son better hurry up lol. The individual I spoke with said it wouldn't affect '25 prices, guess I'll call that office again and see what answer I'm given again for chits and giggles. With nonresidents paying a high percentage of WDFW income, I think they're gonna be in for a surprise when there's a drop in hunters.
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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2025, 08:23:38 PM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/administration/budget/faq

Here are some funding information about fish and game.  Spending by sportsman and what the department gets also.  License sales is always a source but not what most think

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2025, 09:02:49 AM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/administration/budget/faq

Here are some funding information about fish and game.  Spending by sportsman and what the department gets also.  License sales is always a source but not what most think

The antis narrative is complete BS!

The Game Division’s biennial budget is approximately $11 million, sourced from various state and federal funds . 

In total, the WDFW’s Wildlife Program has an estimated biennial budget of $75.6 million, with actual expenditures totaling $68.6 million in the 2023–25 biennium . 

Therefore, the cost to manage game species at WDFW is approximately $75.6 million over two years, supporting a workforce of about 327 FTEs dedicated to wildlife management and conservation efforts.

The majority of WDFWs budget goes to paying its staff.

In licenses sold alone we generated 41.5 million in revenue and it only takes 38 million per year to operate the game division of WDFW. We also have an additional 8.3 million from PR Funds! So the newest operating budget for the ENTIRE WDFW is 823 million this bienium. Hunters are and can pay our way!

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2025, 05:29:59 PM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/administration/budget/faq

Here are some funding information about fish and game.  Spending by sportsman and what the department gets also.  License sales is always a source but not what most think

The antis narrative is complete BS!

The Game Division’s biennial budget is approximately $11 million, sourced from various state and federal funds . 

In total, the WDFW’s Wildlife Program has an estimated biennial budget of $75.6 million, with actual expenditures totaling $68.6 million in the 2023–25 biennium . 

Therefore, the cost to manage game species at WDFW is approximately $75.6 million over two years, supporting a workforce of about 327 FTEs dedicated to wildlife management and conservation efforts.

The majority of WDFWs budget goes to paying its staff.

In licenses sold alone we generated 41.5 million in revenue and it only takes 38 million per year to operate the game division of WDFW. We also have an additional 8.3 million from PR Funds! So the newest operating budget for the ENTIRE WDFW is 823 million this bienium. Hunters are and can pay our way!
Game division doesn't include enforcement, lands, licensing, and habitat programs.

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2025, 07:13:01 PM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/administration/budget/faq

Here are some funding information about fish and game.  Spending by sportsman and what the department gets also.  License sales is always a source but not what most think

The antis narrative is complete BS!

The Game Division’s biennial budget is approximately $11 million, sourced from various state and federal funds . 

In total, the WDFW’s Wildlife Program has an estimated biennial budget of $75.6 million, with actual expenditures totaling $68.6 million in the 2023–25 biennium . 

Therefore, the cost to manage game species at WDFW is approximately $75.6 million over two years, supporting a workforce of about 327 FTEs dedicated to wildlife management and conservation efforts.

The majority of WDFWs budget goes to paying its staff.

In licenses sold alone we generated 41.5 million in revenue and it only takes 38 million per year to operate the game division of WDFW. We also have an additional 8.3 million from PR Funds! So the newest operating budget for the ENTIRE WDFW is 823 million this bienium. Hunters are and can pay our way!
Game division doesn't include enforcement, lands, licensing, and habitat programs.

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Re: 38% increase in fishing and hunting licenses
« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2025, 08:21:11 AM »
This bill along with SB5390 will be signed by JayBob tomorrow. No surprise.
The commission shall attempt to maximize the public recreational game fishing and hunting opportunities of all citizens, including juvenile, disabled, and senior citizens. (RCW77.04.012)

 


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