alkili bull elk permit problems.

[BA Mongor]

Two weeks is LONG enough to submit your selections.

[time2hunt]

I’m betting the game department leaves it as is the fire center unit will be closed but unit 334 will still be open.


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[Bob33]

I find it a little odd that WDFW pulled the permits. The Training Center has range closures every year, and sometimes all areas are closed to public access. So why is this year different? I wonder if someone from the Army called WDFW and told them they don't want any more hunting, period.

[bigdub257]

I’m betting the game department leaves it as is the fire center unit will be closed but unit 334 will still be open.


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Isn't all or most of GMU 334 private?

[teanawayslayer]

I’m betting the game department leaves it as is the fire center unit will be closed but unit 334 will still be open.


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yes and firearm restricted

Isn't all or most of GMU 334 private?

[salmonfinder]

M8ne is still listed as one of my choices

[westside bull]

If it's closed to all going to be some great animals in there.

[SptnStlk]

Members,
Instead of simply being bummed and complying with this bogus WDFW tag reduction, please write to the Department of Defense and/or Whitehouse about this. Like someone else said, TA closures are understandable and acceptable - Misson first. This total base closure to hunting is punishment to outdoorsmen and hunters that voted TRUMP. Those guards at the gate are not going anywhere regardless of this change and checking hunters in and out gave them something to do at least. Citing DOGE cuts is total BS... BTW the YTC check in check out process is totally unnecessary and should have gone online years ago - like JBLM.

[time2hunt]

Loosen the tinfoil hat the firing center closes every year off and on due to what kind of training is being performed and by what military branch is using it. it usually closes in September for the Japanese troops to train at times. I’ve seen the British troops out there. There’s been issues in the years past of Hunt’s not following the rules by taking alcohol driving through closed areas and then on top of that, unable to control the tribal hunting the simplest way to deal with all kinds of issues, especially on a military basis to close it especially if they think it’s gonna be a busy training year.


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[Berin Denson]

Loosen the tinfoil hat the firing center closes every year off and on due to what kind of training is being performed and by what military branch is using it. it usually closes in September for the Japanese troops to train at times. I’ve seen the British troops out there. There’s been issues in the years past of Hunt’s not following the rules by taking alcohol driving through closed areas and then on top of that, unable to control the tribal hunting the simplest way to deal with all kinds of issues, especially on a military basis to close it especially if they think it’s gonna be a busy training year.


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I speak for myself here, but I’ll keep my tinfoil hat on, thank you. The closure is BS regardless of the training status. For years we’ve been able to navigate around the fluctuating training schedules. The big picture here is more hunting opportunity reduced and if we continue to take your suggested stance of sitting on our hands and singing kumbaya the statewide reductions will continue. To all of my fellow tin foil hat owners, reach out to proper government bodies and share your thoughts and concerns. 

[dvolmer]

Loosen the tinfoil hat the firing center closes every year off and on due to what kind of training is being performed and by what military branch is using it. it usually closes in September for the Japanese troops to train at times. I’ve seen the British troops out there. There’s been issues in the years past of Hunt’s not following the rules by taking alcohol driving through closed areas and then on top of that, unable to control the tribal hunting the simplest way to deal with all kinds of issues, especially on a military basis to close it especially if they think it’s gonna be a busy training year.  Yes your points are increasing and you are getting more entries into the pot but they don't compensate you enough for the amount of permit quotas that are being slashed.


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I speak for myself here, but I’ll keep my tinfoil hat on, thank you. The closure is BS regardless of the training status. For years we’ve been able to navigate around the fluctuating training schedules. The big picture here is more hunting opportunity reduced and if we continue to take your suggested stance of sitting on our hands and singing kumbaya the statewide reductions will continue. To all of my fellow tin foil hat owners, reach out to proper government bodies and share your thoughts and concerns.

It's just one more nail in the coffin. This has a domino affect also. All those that would normally put in for these permits will now put in for the last few other permits still available and the odds will go from a million to one to a billion to one for the last few decent permits we have left in this state. Don't fool yourself. It is only going to get worse. Just track the last 10 to 15 years in special permits if you don't believe me. Everybody thinks they have to much skin in the game with their 15-25 points to get out of the game, but the fact is that every year you are not getting drawn and gaining a point, your actual odds of ever drawing one of these quality permits is going down not up. Yes your points are increasing and you are getting more entries into the big pot (and that pot is getting huge) but it cant keep up with the amount of quota that is being slashed more and more each year.

[time2hunt]

This is not the game department screwing hunters out of Hunting rights. It’s a military installation that is going to be closed for training for a year, possibly two.


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[buglebuster]

This is not the game department screwing hunters out of Hunting rights. It’s a military installation that is going to be closed for training for a year, possibly two.


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I don’t know why people aren’t grasping this concept

[Pegasus]

The problem is that the closure isn't just because of "training". Its because the base commander is using the excuse that his unit is understaffed to close the base, a choice not based the public's interest. This is the kind of thing that if we had a  pro-hunting governor the problem would be solved in a day. He would call President Trump and the problem would end. Pretty easy to go over the base commander's head and get the subjective decision changed for the good of the likely Trump voting hunting public in the state.

[blackpowderhunter]

This is not the game department screwing hunters out of Hunting rights. It’s a military installation that is going to be closed for training for a year, possibly two.


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I don’t know why people aren’t grasping this concept

because it's the easy button for people to just blame WDFW for things the WDFW can't control lol.
i think it sucks, and its bs, but obviously WDFW didnt have a say in the matter or they wouldnt have had the option to chose the hunt.
they got caught in the middle and are scrambling....and likely some yahoos will refuse to change their selections, muck up the draw, and then same people will complain about WDFW's incompetency