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Interesting to hear and watch Lorna Smith clutch her pearls and feign terror in the response to public input."These people have guns you know,and the black trucks rolling in front of our house!" "We've had to listen to you people for an hour and a half."

Smoke and mirrors ,they got caught now they are trying to distract from it. The Foul Four need to be gone.
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I am anxious for more evidence from SA. Like to keep the heat on these commissioners. It really bothers me how they behave.
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If they don’t get booted from their position
You’ll know how much Washington values the hunting community.
Ferguson needs to act.
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If Baker is removed from the commission, who do you expect to take over as commission chair?  :dunno:
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If Baker is removed from the commission, who do you expect to take over as commission chair?  :dunno:
Oh no,  they'd be so lost! Enlighten us why she is the only one who can lead the commission.  Or better yet why she is leading,  I've literally never seen the dysfunction or violations of roberts that the gavel should control. 

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If Baker is removed from the commission, who do you expect to take over as commission chair?  :dunno:
Oh no,  they'd be so lost! Enlighten us why she is the only one who can lead the commission.  Or better yet why she is leading,  I've literally never seen the dysfunction or violations of roberts that the gavel should control.

I would expect Smith to take over. 
A much more liberal agenda of “what can we close next”?  :bdid:
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If they don’t get booted from their position
You’ll know how much Washington values the hunting community.
Ferguson needs to act.

I think Ferguson has to act...
If not it makes him and his AG look corrupt.....
There's grounds for criminal charges....
If one of "Troopers" behaved the same way they'd get fired ..

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Do we even need a commission ?
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Do we even need a commission ?
Considering the proposed alternative, yes! Ruth at the top would be a nightmare. 

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https://blog.eastmans.com/washington-state-game-commission-corruption-uncovered/


If they don’t get booted from their position
You’ll know how much Washington values the hunting community.
Ferguson needs to act.

I think Ferguson has to act...
If not it makes him and his AG look corrupt.....
There's grounds for criminal charges....
If one of "Troopers" behaved the same way they'd get fired ..

No he doesn't. He could leave it to the lawsuit to sort it out if he thinks the case has merit. He's still getting them removed without inviting the fanatical blowback of animal rights activists
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If Baker is removed from the commission, who do you expect to take over as commission chair?  :dunno:

Baker shouldn’t be chair. Her demeanor in condescending towards Sportsman and Fishermen.

Linville called out the Commission after she left on podcasts. And I respect her for not getting sucked into the foul four dealings.
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Hey Tbar

If I were a member of the tribes I would be asking for them to be talking to the governor over these commissioners.

Any news on that front you heard of?
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Just saw this in the Seattle Times:

A national sportsmen’s group says it has found “egregious” violations of Washington’s Public Records Act by the state’s Department of Fish and Wildlife commissioners, and it’s asking Gov. Bob Ferguson to remove them.

The Sportsmen’s Alliance initially requested records after commissioners, who set policy for the state Fish and Wildlife department, voted to cancel spring bear hunting season indefinitely in 2022, which upset some hunters.

A commissioner said during that meeting they received a text from a constituent, prompting the Sportsmen’s Alliance to file a public records request with the agency in September 2023.

That commissioner informed WDFW staff they didn’t have the text after records requests were filed for it. The state Public Records Act requires the commissioners to retain official records, including texts.

The Sportsmen’s Alliance filed a lawsuit against WDFW in Thurston County Superior Court in January seeking the public records related to their request. The organization said the “vast majority” of the records were only delivered after the lawsuit was filed.

On Friday, the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance filed supplemental evidence to a petition filed with the governor in May asking Gov. Bob Ferguson to remove the four commissioners after it discovered “undeniable evidence that commissioners have, or intended to, destroyed or deleted substantive public records.”

“The point is, you’re not supposed to be conducting business in the dark,” said Todd Adkins, senior vice president for the Sportsmen’s Alliance.

In response to questions from The Seattle Times, the Fish and Wildlife Department declined to comment due to the pending lawsuit and sent a May news release saying it had released records to the Sportsmen’s Alliance. The agency directed reporters to Ferguson’s office.

Brionna Aho, a spokesperson for Ferguson’s office, said in an email it received the petition and amendment Friday, and was “in the process of reviewing the information.”

The Sportsmen’s Alliance represents members in all 50 states, Adkins said. Some of their Washington members flagged their concerns to the organization after the 2022 vote. Commissioners voted 5-4 against recreational spring bear hunting, citing concerns about killing nursing bear mothers, which may orphan cubs.

The Sportsmen’s Alliance’s petition said the records they received showed “one egregious example after another of violations of open meetings requirements,” along with “open flouting” of state laws, “a patent disregard of the interest of Indian tribes,” and general disdain for the public’s involvement in government processes.

Records posted online by the organization show a commissioner repeatedly asking other commissioners and staff members to delete texts discussing WDFW commission matters, which would be a violation of the Public Records Act.

After the request by the Sportsmen’s Alliance, one commissioner admitted to possibly deleting records before they “knew of the importance of retaining such emails.” 

The state’s Public Records Act says anyone who destroys or conceals public records willfully is guilty of a class C felony, punishable by up to five years in jail and/or a fine up to $1,000.

The Sportsmen’s Alliance said in its Friday petition that the evidence is “more than enough evidence of misconduct, malfeasance, and incompetence to justify dismissal” of commissioners.

In total, WDFW has nine governor-appointed commissioners who have six-year terms. All four commissioners at the heart of the petition and lawsuit were appointed by former Gov. Jay Inslee.

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"We've had to listen to you (public) for 1.5 hours" is all one really needs to know to come to the conclusion these folks are not fit for the position.

 


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