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Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« on: June 11, 2025, 06:36:03 PM »
Mike Lee is at it again.  I urge you all to contact your Senator, regardless of your political affiliation or who you may or may not have voted for. 

https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/senate-proposes-selling-public-land/

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2025, 04:12:47 PM »
This is the most disturbing bill I've ever seen. THESE LAND SALES ARE MANDATORY. AS IN, THEY WILL BE SOLD, WITHOUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. NOW IS YOUR CHANCE FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. Remember the corner crossing lawsuit in WY? Now that *censored* could own the public land adjacent to his property.

If you enjoy hunting and/or the freedom to roam, you need to get involved to stop this unprecedented land grab. They'll take it from right under your feet. WRITE YOUR SENATOR, AND WRITE THE SENATORS OF IDAHO AND WYOMING. THIS CAN BE STOPPED BY PUBLIC LAND ADVOCATES. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NOW.

Besides republican senators presiding over Western states like Idaho and Wyoming, who would have massive swaths of their state affected by this bill, there are a number of republican senators who take issue with Trump's Big Beautiful Bill, and should be written. Those senators are:

Josh Hawley (R-MO)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Rand Paul (R-KY)
Thom Tillis (R-N.C.)
Joni Ernst (R-Iowa)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
In addition to the senators listed above who are not sold on the Big Beautiful Bill which contains this land grab, please email the senators of ID, MT, UT (including the psycho Senator Mike Lee, who crafted this land grab), WY, telling them that unfettered access to public land is a high priority.

an example of what you could say is:

The Senate Reconciliation Bill land grab effectively ends the envy of the world; U.S. public land access. As a conservative, conservationist, and avid outdoorsman, I am asking you to do everything in your power to kill this provision and to keep the West accessible. This is truly terrifying, and I can't imagine the most wild parts of this great country being held privately, with very little to no public opportunity. I am in utter disbelief on this assault on our public access. From recreation access to habitat fragmentation, this bill is BAD NEWS. Please, amend this bill to exclude the mandatory sale of our public land. I am not part of your constituency, but this bill would have unprecedented consequences for myself, and millions of people like me living in the West.
Thank you!! "

I'm not trying to create a political debate here. You're here because you value hunting and access. This bill is an attempt to strip that away from you and fragment key habitat in the process. This will change Western access as we know it. This is a BIG *censored*ING DEAL.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #2 on: Today at 04:04:45 AM »
Wes Siler's column here is worth a read: https://wessiler.substack.com/p/heres-the-120-million-acres-of-public

3.8 million acres of public land in Washington alone. 6.2 million in Oregon.  7.6 million in Idaho. (Interestingly, amendment co-author Steve Daines of Montana exempted his own state's federal lands from the sale.)

I've hunted, hiked,  climbed and otherwise recreated on federal lands, and I cannot imagine my experience of the Pacific Northwest without access to public lands. I've written my senators, and will be writing some others as well, to oppose this. 

Once these lands are sold, including to foreign buyers, we are not getting them back, or getting access without paying for it.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #3 on: Today at 07:53:12 AM »
Bump. Everybody needs to reach out to their representatives.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #4 on: Today at 08:21:55 AM »
Where are all the anti-hunting folks at on issues like this.
You would think all the dot.org people,would be all over it .
They are selling off a lot of habitat,why didn't our senators get our state off the list .
Stupid.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #5 on: Today at 08:24:40 AM »
Im heart broken. Every spot I hunt annualy would be sold. These are places my grandpa went to hunt before shipping off to shoot Nazis and never touched a gun again.... though he still was hell on the trout population after the war. The place i shot my first deer would be sold.

Selling off public land for a short term budget bump is crazy. The bill MANDATES these lands are sold, so the could just be bought up by rish *censored*s from out of state that want their own hunting mountain.

Im emailing my representatives, and ones that may listen in other states.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #6 on: Today at 08:44:08 AM »
Im heart broken. Every spot I hunt annualy would be sold.

How do you know that?

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #7 on: Today at 09:10:58 AM »
Where are all the anti-hunting folks at on issues like this.
You would think all the dot.org people,would be all over it .
They are selling off a lot of habitat,why didn't our senators get our state off the list .
Stupid.

I mean you say that, but honestly when I google the issue to find the latest information, most of the websites I find info on are hiking and environmental websites and forums, not hunting/fishing pages. I’d argue the environmental community does a lot more than our hunting community does to protect public lands. We hunters are notoriously quiet when it comes to speaking up.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #8 on: Today at 11:14:26 AM »
https://www.fieldandstream.com/stories/conservation/public-lands-and-waters/map-of-public-lands-for-sale-budget-bill

I hope this map is wrong, because this would be catastrophic.

The BLM land is bad enough, lots of big game winter range and bird hunting, but the forest service land in nuts.

Good by Methow and Chelan mule deer herds.
You will never shoot a camp bull by spending all your time hunting in the woods.

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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #9 on: Today at 11:27:13 AM »
While I'm 100% against this land sale provision in the spending bill, full stop, I think we need to keep things in perspective. 

The Outdoor Alliance maps show the total of 300 million acres that could be eligible for sale - but the bill only requires up to 3.3 million acres to be sold.  About 1.1% of the total land that is eligible.

If your favorite place is in that 1.1% that ends up being sold, of course it's a devastating loss.  Nearly all of my favorite places up here are on the chopping block, and we don't have nearly the user base to protect it that lower 48 states do.  I'm very concerned.

But I think it's important to keep things in perspective.  A lot of the conversation I'm hearing/seeing on this shows the map images, and assumes it will all be sold.
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Re: Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation
« Reply #11 on: Today at 12:10:11 PM »
While I'm 100% against this land sale provision in the spending bill, full stop, I think we need to keep things in perspective. 

The Outdoor Alliance maps show the total of 300 million acres that could be eligible for sale - but the bill only requires up to 3.3 million acres to be sold.  About 1.1% of the total land that is eligible.

If your favorite place is in that 1.1% that ends up being sold, of course it's a devastating loss.  Nearly all of my favorite places up here are on the chopping block, and we don't have nearly the user base to protect it that lower 48 states do.  I'm very concerned.

But I think it's important to keep things in perspective.  A lot of the conversation I'm hearing/seeing on this shows the map images, and assumes it will all be sold.
Totally agree!!
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