3 pintails

[hdshot]

Just had to cancel my first trip ever of sockeye fishing on the Columbia or anywhere because the days I had planned on going are now closed as of today!  The days open a limit of 2 sockeye.  To make this waterfowl related it looks like we might be able to bag 3 pintails per day 7 day per week most weeks during the waterfowl season to compare.

[Dan-o]

I like your resilience.   

[metlhead]

Hen pinners make great live decoys

[Klickitatsteelie]

But only 3 geese

[metlhead]

Bummer bouts the goose limit decrease. Any reasons? Last season had crazy cackler and dusky numbers along the coast.

[hunterednate]

Main reason for goose season decrease is population declines among some species of cackling geese and lesser Canadas. The big Western Canadas are doing fine.

[metlhead]

Got a link to the numbers? From Willapa to Tillamook I've seen huge increases in numbers. Willamette valley seems to have strong numbers.

[vandeman17]

Last couple seasons I have seen more and more pinnies in the basin

[hunterednate]

Got a link to the numbers? From Willapa to Tillamook I've seen huge increases in numbers. Willamette valley seems to have strong numbers.

I don't have a link, but you could email Kyle Spragens with WDFW to ask for the numbers. The data presented at the last WAG meeting and may also be in the meeting minutes on the WDFW website.

[metlhead]

Thanks

[hdshot]

I like your resilience.   

Everyone has to be resilient especially the local businesses that depend on that fishery.  I had to pivot from planned spending for gas, food, license, and lodging around Brewster area and instead took that time and money to Yellowstone. 

[hdshot]

Bummer bouts the goose limit decrease. Any reasons? Last season had crazy cackler and dusky numbers along the coast.

My former hunting partner would likely tell you in capital letters stop being negative and go kick rocks.  But you would have understood like me and saved a rock because he probably already took enough kicked rocks off his head.

[YoungFowler]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard the phrase "former hunting partner," I could probably buy a new shotgun. I understand you got burned by him at some point in time, but do you think maybe it's time to move on and go out and have new experiences, make new friends, and hunt new places? I'm not trying to be mean, but you talk about it in every thread, to what end? What do you want us to say? Sorry that he burned you?

I'm sure you have far more hunting experience than I do, but in my time hunting I have come to notice two types of outdoorsmen, the complainers and the do-ers. Seasons change, new people move into spots, land gets sold, diseases, predators, whatever it may be, things change and there are always people who complain about it, blame WDFW, blame someone else, etc.
On the other hand, there are people who are resilient and continue to be students to the outdoors and find new spots, hunt harder, try new strategies, and take ownership in their success. Sometimes it's easy to fall into the first group, I do myself at times. But I try my best to be a do-er, like I see many other men and women doing on this forum. You've obviously been eaten up by this hunting partner thing for a long time, and I'm honestly sympathetic to it, but at some point you gotta let that go into the past and think about the possibilities of the future. That's my best attempt at a pep talk, and I've been thinking about it for a while, since I always see your posts. Best of luck.

[Dan-o]

Excellent perspective and advice, Youngfowler!   

[h2ofowlr]

Great perspective youngfowler.  Hdshot has been beating that dead horse for several years.  Time to move on.

[hdshot]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard the phrase "former hunting partner," I could probably buy a new shotgun. I understand you got burned by him at some point in time, but do you think maybe it's time to move on and go out and have new experiences, make new friends, and hunt new places? I'm not trying to be mean, but you talk about it in every thread, to what end? What do you want us to say? Sorry that he burned you?

I'm sure you have far more hunting experience than I do, but in my time hunting I have come to notice two types of outdoorsmen, the complainers and the do-ers. Seasons change, new people move into spots, land gets sold, diseases, predators, whatever it may be, things change and there are always people who complain about it, blame WDFW, blame someone else, etc.
On the other hand, there are people who are resilient and continue to be students to the outdoors and find new spots, hunt harder, try new strategies, and take ownership in their success. Sometimes it's easy to fall into the first group, I do myself at times. But I try my best to be a do-er, like I see many other men and women doing on this forum. You've obviously been eaten up by this hunting partner thing for a long time, and I'm honestly sympathetic to it, but at some point you gotta let that go into the past and think about the possibilities of the future. That's my best attempt at a pep talk, and I've been thinking about it for a while, since I always see your posts. Best of luck.

Unfortunately it’s all of us that have been burned which in turn does no good for our sport.  That is why hunters are so reluctant to share spots when I was not with his new friends hunting a spot he once gave up on. My experience just is proving why we are reluctant to even people who want to start. I understand established hunters don’t want that exposed but it helps the new ones wanting to start hunting and understanding of the roadblocks why hunters encourage but don’t act.

[hdshot]

Great perspective youngfowler.  Hdshot has been beating that dead horse for several years.  Time to move on.

Basically shows why my former hunting partner can do dumb things to other hunters because of statements like this.  Never accused of him being stupid but he definitely understands what stupidity will say unfortunately.

[Dan-o]

Headshot,

Have you ever considered starting a thread on the topic of your former hunting partner?

Clearly most people don't want their threads derailed by your repetitive references to how you were wronged by your former hunting partner.  I'll go so far as to say that it tends to derail lots of Waterfowl threads.   

Perhaps you could start your own thread on your former hunting partner.   That way, people that want to hear about it can check input and people that don't want their threads derailed will also be happy. 

You could post frequent updates on your thoughts regarding your former hunting partner.   Maybe a lot of folks would patronize your thread.  I don't really know.   But I do know that it would keep other Waterfowl threads from getting derailed. 

Please consider starting a thread and keeping your comments on the matter there.

[hdshot]

Headshot,

Have you ever considered starting a thread on the topic of your former hunting partner?

Clearly most people don't want their threads derailed by your repetitive references to how you were wronged by your former hunting partner.  I'll go sk for as to say thst it tends to derail lots of Waterfowl threads.   

Perhaps you could start your own thread on your former hunting partner.   That way, people thst want to hear about it can check input and people that don't want their threads derailed will also be happy. 

You could post frequent updates on your thoughts regarding your former hunting partner.   Maybe a lot of folks would patronize your thread.  I don't really know.   UT I do k ow that it would keep other Waterfowl threads from getting derailed. 

Please consider starting a thread and keeping your comments on the matter there.

I did start this thread.  Carried over to the new goose seasons and limits from others which is cool with me and went from there.

[hdshot]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard the phrase "former hunting partner," I could probably buy a new shotgun. I understand you got burned by him at some point in time, but do you think maybe it's time to move on and go out and have new experiences, make new friends, and hunt new places? I'm not trying to be mean, but you talk about it in every thread, to what end? What do you want us to say? Sorry that he burned you?

I'm sure you have far more hunting experience than I do, but in my time hunting I have come to notice two types of outdoorsmen, the complainers and the do-ers. Seasons change, new people move into spots, land gets sold, diseases, predators, whatever it may be, things change and there are always people who complain about it, blame WDFW, blame someone else, etc.
On the other hand, there are people who are resilient and continue to be students to the outdoors and find new spots, hunt harder, try new strategies, and take ownership in their success. Sometimes it's easy to fall into the first group, I do myself at times. But I try my best to be a do-er, like I see many other men and women doing on this forum. You've obviously been eaten up by this hunting partner thing for a long time, and I'm honestly sympathetic to it, but at some point you gotta let that go into the past and think about the possibilities of the future. That's my best attempt at a pep talk, and I've been thinking about it for a while, since I always see your posts. Best of luck.

Also another sad fact that you left out is my former hunting partner is very negative towards our public lands because he told me no guarantee he would hunt with me because I’m only limited to public lands.  People with full time jobs kind of have no time to scout and he even said it worked out well for him because he now has personal scouts.

Then you tell me to go get friends when you won’t offer? Wow, guess that’s another reason why you are going to have to get fingerprinted to buy those shotguns very soon.

But bigger issues is lack of birds and areas for the general public that depend on traffic areas.  Looks like early season will be very good for early season standards but the migration for ducks especially mallards looks in question.

[full choke]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard the phrase "former hunting partner," I could probably buy a new shotgun. I understand you got burned by him at some point in time, but do you think maybe it's time to move on and go out and have new experiences, make new friends, and hunt new places? I'm not trying to be mean, but you talk about it in every thread, to what end? What do you want us to say? Sorry that he burned you?

I'm sure you have far more hunting experience than I do, but in my time hunting I have come to notice two types of outdoorsmen, the complainers and the do-ers. Seasons change, new people move into spots, land gets sold, diseases, predators, whatever it may be, things change and there are always people who complain about it, blame WDFW, blame someone else, etc.
On the other hand, there are people who are resilient and continue to be students to the outdoors and find new spots, hunt harder, try new strategies, and take ownership in their success. Sometimes it's easy to fall into the first group, I do myself at times. But I try my best to be a do-er, like I see many other men and women doing on this forum. You've obviously been eaten up by this hunting partner thing for a long time, and I'm honestly sympathetic to it, but at some point you gotta let that go into the past and think about the possibilities of the future. That's my best attempt at a pep talk, and I've been thinking about it for a while, since I always see your posts. Best of luck.

Also another sad fact that you left out is my former hunting partner is very negative towards our public lands because he told me no guarantee he would hunt with me because I’m only limited to public lands.  People with full time jobs kind of have no time to scout and he even said it worked out well for him because he now has personal scouts.

Then you tell me to go get friends when you won’t offer? Wow, guess that’s another reason why you are going to have to get fingerprinted to buy those shotguns very soon.

But bigger issues is lack of birds and areas for the general public that depend on traffic areas.  Looks like early season will be very good for early season standards but the migration for ducks especially mallards looks in question.

[YoungFowler]

Also another sad fact that you left out is my former hunting partner is very negative towards our public lands because he told me no guarantee he would hunt with me because I’m only limited to public lands.  People with full time jobs kind of have no time to scout and he even said it worked out well for him because he now has personal scouts.

Then you tell me to go get friends when you won’t offer? Wow, guess that’s another reason why you are going to have to get fingerprinted to buy those shotguns very soon.

But bigger issues is lack of birds and areas for the general public that depend on traffic areas.  Looks like early season will be very good for early season standards but the migration for ducks especially mallards looks in question.

Okay, I'll bite.

I don't know about that negativity towards birds and areas. In my mind, we're in the good old days of waterfowl hunting. We have a liberal season and bag limit in the pacflyway, we have organizations conserving acres of breeding habitat by the millions, we (albiet maybe temporarily) saved public land from a sell-off, it's not all doom and gloom. There's all sorts of folks who work full time and are still happy and successful in their hunting outings, myself included. I largely hunt public land and mainly hunt weekends and am able to have 100-150 bird seasons at this point in life, which you may or may not consider to be successful, but it's good enough for me. Think positively. Enjoy the sport.

[metlhead]

YF, we've prolly crossed paths if yer SW WA and puttin down over a hunrd birds a season. Full time work myself just means more miles scouted behind the windshield and Onx. Opporunity abounds for those looking. Best of luck to you and another awesome upcoming season. Don't feed the troll.