370” Siouxon Bull elk

[LucasSmarrties816]

1980 Siouxon bull Boone and Crockett score @ 370”
Killed by Mark Morgan of Kalama wa.
Anyone else have experience with a Roosevelt of this caliber in the region or western wa in general?

[redi]

Beautiful bull. Not to take anything away from the bulls or hunter but Roosevelt elk boundary is I-5. Anything east of I-5 is classified as a Rocky Mountain elk.

[LucasSmarrties816]

So do you think the Boone and Crocker plate is fake? Just curious because I searched the records book for this bull under his name and all the different elk categories

[WapitiTalk1]

Beautiful bull. Not to take anything away from the bulls or hunter but Roosevelt elk boundary is I-5. Anything east of I-5 is classified as a Rocky Mountain elk.

Agree with redi. I’m not sure when I5 became the divider for Roosie/RM elk ID but I will say that the elk in the image has a lot of RM elk characteristics 

[elkrack]

Beautiful bull. Not to take anything away from the bulls or hunter but Roosevelt elk boundary is I-5. Anything east of I-5 is classified as a Rocky Mountain elk.

Agree with redi. I’m not sure when I5 became the divider for Roosie/RM elk ID but I will say that the elk in the image has a lot of RM elk characteristics 

 
And the pictured bull is 330” tops unless those mains are 60”

[highside74]

I've always called them Cascade Roosevelt east of i5 and west of the Cascade range.

370 is generous judging by those pics but definitely a shooter any day of the hunt.

[Kingofthemountain83]

I think there B&C boundaries are kinda askew imo... Rimrock for example is full of Rosies... Then I've seen bulls that look more like Rocky Mtn in Storm King and Skookum... Great bull either way though! I'm sure the plaque is made at some trophy shop... Or even the taxidermist... Not some official B&C plaque... 

[redi]

I’m not disputing the score or trying to take away anything from the Bull. I agree the boundary is a line that elk can cross at will. Boone and Crockett and Pope and Young record books have established that boundary.

[JPhelps]

That’s a great bull (even though it’s not 370)

In the past 15 years we have only found four cascade Roosevelt bulls in that 350+ range and only been able to kill one.

[Threewolves]

One of these is from B&C the other just from google

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[pianoman9701]

Darn nice bull in any case. 

[Kingofthemountain83]

https://www.boone-crockett.org/category-boundaries-big-game-records#MuleDeer


B&C boundaries for today... I can't find boundaries for 1980... But guessing it was cut down the middle of the Cascades pretty much... They said it's been moved multiple times... I remember the PCT being a boundary at one point... I'm thinking that bulls 340"ish... Could very well be a rosie... That's so hard to tell from the look... B&C just started accepting them in 1979... And they got it done up for someone... Who knows the story... Probably a joke for a friend or family... The 300 series gmu's that border the Cascades are full of rosies and crossbreeds... Just like the benchlegs...

[redi]

This is from the Boone and Crockett website.

[Magnum_Willys]

There were some big bulls in the Soiuxon in the early 80’s - because most of the unit was closed due th the eruption of Mount St Helens in May 1980.

[Pathfinder101]

So do you think the Boone and Crocker plate is fake? Just curious because I searched the records book for this bull under his name and all the different elk categories

Boone and Crockett doesn't engrave a plate for you.  They send you a certificate.  Someone had that plate made.  Also, just because it was scored by B&C standards doesn't mean that it was officially scored or entered in the books.  Most likely Mr. Morgan shot a stomper of a bull elk (that he believed was a Roosevelt), had someone score it (or scored it himself), came up with 370" and when he had it mounted, he had a plate made to commemorate it.  He was also smart enough to put his wife's name on the plaque for her role in harvesting the bull.  Smart man.

Either way; it's a beautiful bull (I agree with most of you that it appears to have more Rocky characteristics than Roosy-but who knows  ), I would absolutely have gotten him mounted, and if putting my wife's name on a plaque would have convinced her to let me hang it in the living room, I'd have done that too....