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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #90 on: July 25, 2009, 09:11:42 PM »
Anyone notice that the 25-06 has no votes. 

'Cause then they'd have to argue with JoshT!

This is a debate not an argument.  :chuckle:  Right?

Wait aren't those the same thing.  :dunno:
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #91 on: July 25, 2009, 09:25:27 PM »
25:06 is an awesome gun, my second choice as best utilization of the 06 case. Close to the peak of its class of guns......
Obviosly everyone respects it.

Boy, this is about the fastest 7 pages of threads I have seen on this forum in my short time here.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #92 on: July 25, 2009, 09:27:09 PM »
My uncle shoots a 264 mag....he has killed about a dozen bull elk with it.....truly an awesome gun but also tougher on barrels than the 7 mag.

That's the only rifle I had for about 15 years, from about the age of 15. Finally decided I didn't care for the recoil and sold it and bought a 270.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #93 on: July 25, 2009, 09:28:27 PM »
you definitely don't want a 338 in a ruger then...... :chuckle:
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #94 on: July 25, 2009, 09:30:55 PM »
Ohhhhh... I was soooooooo trying to stay out of this one... but y'all had to drag me into it.

Much as I hate to do it... the .25-06 is a little overrated. It's kind of a tweener... like that cute girl in school who's pretty sexy, but not really "hot"... and not quite nerdy enough to avoid... you know the type. I married one of those... and I'm pretty happy about it... same for the .25-06... there are better deer rounds (like the 7mm for you haters!)... and better varmint rounds like the .223 and .243 (that's just for you Gutpile) or my favorite the 6mm.

My vote for most overrated goes to the entire family of .22 Centerfires (and the .204 Ruger is in there too)... too much like ()_+()_((*)(*)* for me... lots of bang... but not much substance. I guess the .223 has it's place in the colony varmint world... but that's about all it's good for. The .22-250 and the Swift suck hind tit to the .243/6mm for coyote and large varmint hunting... and all the rest of them fall somewhere inbetween.

I guess at the end of the day ALL rifle cartridges are "overrated"... when it comes to killing furry critters... what "caliber" does the killing is far less critical than the "caliber" of the shooter...
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #95 on: July 25, 2009, 09:32:21 PM »
I don't have a problem shooting my dad's model 70 in 338. Course I don't shoot 30 to 40 rounds through it at a time like I used to do with the 264 either. Also probably didn't help that the 264 had no recoil pad.   :o

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #96 on: July 25, 2009, 09:33:36 PM »
a limbsaver would have saved your limb..... :chuckle:
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #97 on: July 25, 2009, 09:35:34 PM »
a couple of my buddies bought ruger 338's and had me sight them in. WWWOOOOWWWW......about beat the jimminy right out of me...for some reason those rugers just kick worse....my son's 7mag ruger kicks worse than most of my 30 mags.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #98 on: July 25, 2009, 09:37:14 PM »
Stock design is has always caused Rugers to perceivably kick worse than they should... especially that boat paddle stock with the retread tire for a recoil pad.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2009, 09:38:47 PM »
Josh - I liked you until you picked on the .204  :chuckle:

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #100 on: July 25, 2009, 09:46:42 PM »
Josh - I liked you until you picked on the .204  :chuckle:

Only from experience brother... I drank the coolaid... and it was a pretty cool little cartridge... but that little *censored* is LOUD, and doesn't pack much clout. I shot a couple coyotes... both ran like the dickens... and it didn't dissassemble chucks anywhere near the way the 6mm does with a 55. A .223 can shoot a 40 grainer pert'near as fast... without all the noise about it... it gives up a little BC... but were not talking about .600's here... the difference between .250 and .200 don't mean much in the real world of 400 yard tiny critter busters
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #101 on: July 25, 2009, 09:50:57 PM »
Josh - I liked you until you picked on the .204  :chuckle:

Never shot one, don't know any one who ownes one. I'm  really glad that the honeymoon is over on the .204 so every time I read a gun rag or visit a predator website the only thing talked about is the .204. I was really getting sick and tired of that damn cartridge.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #102 on: July 25, 2009, 10:12:45 PM »
You are right about the 243's being wild on critters. We often shoot 6mm's (same thing) or .257's on varmints and I think they blow critters away much better than the smaller calibers. ;)
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #103 on: July 25, 2009, 10:23:43 PM »
Josh - I liked you until you picked on the .204  :chuckle:

Only from experience brother... I drank the coolaid... and it was a pretty cool little cartridge... but that little *censored* is LOUD, and doesn't pack much clout. I shot a couple coyotes... both ran like the dickens... and it didn't dissassemble chucks anywhere near the way the 6mm does with a 55. A .223 can shoot a 40 grainer pert'near as fast... without all the noise about it... it gives up a little BC... but were not talking about .600's here... the difference between .250 and .200 don't mean much in the real world of 400 yard tiny critter busters

Shoot my Cooper .204 for a day with the 40's and then shoot any .223 in the world that you want.....I guarantee you will take the Cooper - Hands down!  

That being said, I will definitely be packing my 243 spitting 55 grain streaks of lightening for 'yotes this year.  The Cooper will be at home looking pretty - just like my wife  :chuckle:
 

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #104 on: July 25, 2009, 10:45:08 PM »
Cooper for Cooper... I guarantee I wouldn't... just me... but I'll give up the 100 fps for the big increase in frontal area for whallop on small critters.

You start shooting the 55s out of a .243 (which is almost as good as my 6mm Rem) at coyotes... and you'll never look back. That combo is the Ayatolah of Rock & Rollah... 1" high at 100 yards is about 3" low at 300... and about 10" at 400... wind doesn't bother them near as much as you think... and coyotes are mighty impressed when that little pill arrives. Rockchuck vs. 55 grainer at 4k = big wet puzzle...
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