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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2009, 08:14:41 PM »
bearmanrick better be after this....next hot selling calls..... :chuckle:
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2009, 08:26:35 PM »
whoops, better delete that post! i think i found my retirement plan.... retire at 25 hmmmmmmmmm

YOU GUYS CAN CATCH ME ON THE NEXT EPISODE ON THE OUTDOOR CHANNEL SITTING ON A PORCH WITH WILL PRIMOS.... PSHHHHH!
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2009, 08:32:43 PM »
rasbo I don't know if bait is legal with the intention of pulling in wolves, better run that one past olympia.

Bait has been legal for cougar and works for them at times. I am pretty sure bait is legal for coyotes, but again check first.

If someone calls olympia and asks these questions, post the answer on here.....
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2009, 08:36:15 PM »
you can bait for yoties... absolutely!
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2009, 11:38:05 AM »
WDFW WA Wolf Info
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/diversty/soc/gray_wolf/meetings.htm

WDFW WA Wolf Plan Overview
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/diversty/soc/gray_wolf/wolfplan_overview.pdf

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Hunters need to have input in this plan.......
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2009, 11:53:58 AM »
I forgot to mention, this wolf working group has about 15 active members. I know one the members, I am told the group is stacked with pro-wolfers.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/diversty/soc/gray_wolf/members.htm

Hunters need to have input in this plan during the public input period.......
Final decisions do take into account public input.....
If no one speaks against wolves then everyone must want them.....

Go to the meeting and speak.....
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2009, 10:52:43 AM »
I forgot to mention, this wolf working group has about 15 active members. I know one the members, I am told the group is stacked with pro-wolfers.


Not surprising there



Hunters need to have input in this plan during the public input period.......
Final decisions do take into account public input.....
If no one speaks against wolves then everyone must want them.....

Go to the meeting and speak.....


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 here's what Idaho director said recently of thier situation....




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    Wednesday, August 5, 2009

    Fish & Game prepares for fall wolf hunt

    Commissioner: Some Idaho hunters are ready, whether it’s legal or not

    By JASON KAUFFMAN
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    Idaho Fish and Game Commissioner Randy Budge speaks about the challenges of managing wolves in the state to a gathering of Western attorneys general in Sun Valley on Monday. Photo by Willy Cook

    At least one high-ranking wildlife official in Idaho believes a wolf hunt will happen in the state later this fall regardless of whether the species remains under the state's control.

    Speaking in Sun Valley on Monday, Idaho Fish and Game Commissioner Randy Budge said many of the state's hunters are so upset by Idaho's growing wolf population they might take matters into their own hands if conservationists successfully derail the federal government's latest delisting of wolves in the northern Rockies. Budge made his prediction while speaking about the challenges of managing natural resource issues at the annual Conference of Western Attorneys General, at Sun Valley Resort from Aug. 2-5.

    Whatever happens, Budge predicted, a wolf hunt will take place in Idaho's backcountry this fall.

    "It will either be a state-authorized one or it will be an illegal one," he said.

    Whether strong remarks like that play into conservationists' hands remains to be seen. In early June, conservation groups filed suit against the federal government in an effort to reverse a decision that removed Endangered Species Act (ESA) protections for gray wolves in the northern Rocky Mountains.

    According to the 13 groups that filed the lawsuit, U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar failed to fully consider both scientific and legal inadequacies underlying the delisting rule—released in the waning days of the Bush administration—before adopting it on April 2. The groups claim the rule will allow more than two-thirds of the region's wolves to be killed before the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service would even consider stepping back in and restoring protections.

    The federal government's April delisting did not include the state of Wyoming, whose wolf management plan the Fish and Wildlife Service has deemed inadequate. Wyoming officials have also filed suit against the federal government challenging their absence from the delisting.

    Both lawsuits are still pending.
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    Budge's comments were prefaced by his discussion of the federal government's role in the ongoing wolf delisting drama. He said the time has long since passed when the delisting should have been completed.

    He said the original point wolves were to be delisted from the ESA was when the northern Rockies population reached 30 breeding pairs and 300 wolves spread across the states of Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. Current estimates state that about 1,650 wolves are in the region, more than five times the delisting numbers Budge said the federal government originally agreed on.

    But conservationists have consistently claimed those numbers were set too low and do not constitute a biologically viable population of wolves in the tri-state region.

    Not following through on the wolf delisting would further erode an already shaky trust between the northern Rockies states and the federal government, Budge claimed.

    "We have a saturation of wolves in these three states and yet we have no (state) management," he said.

    Except for several spots in the state—including the Sawtooth Valley, where the hunt would run from September through March—Idaho's wolf hunt will generally run from October through December. In areas inside the Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness and the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness, the wolf hunt is set to run from Sept. 15 through Dec. 31.

    In Idaho Falls on Monday, Aug. 17, the Idaho Fish and Game Commission will set the quota for the wolf hunt state officials hope will occur this fall. Tags to hunt wolves would go on sale after the quotas are set, a news release from the Idaho Department of Fish and Game states. A resident wolf tag would cost $11.75, and a nonresident tag would be $186.

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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2009, 04:13:31 PM »
Sounds like Idaho has finally had enough of their micky mouse delist=relist bullsh-t. Don't blame em abit.

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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2009, 04:25:54 PM »
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Whatever happens, Budge predicted, a wolf hunt will take place in Idaho's backcountry this fall.

I have a serious man crush on him. :bow:

Can you imagine if someone in the WDFW said that.. :chuckle:

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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2009, 04:54:45 PM »
Oh yeah I love seeing the photos.  I didnt mean you shouldnt post them or show all of us your hardwork.  I just want them to be reported so that there is proof that has been verified or at least investigated.  The first thing the pro-wolf people say is that there has only been one case of deprivation by wolves.  We all know that is bull but if no one reported it...it didnt happen.   Keep on posting the photos with the locations.  I want to come up there one day and see if I can get some on film.  That would be rad.  We all want "proactive" management.  The best way to get it is to have as much proof as possible.

photos with GPS coords would be good....and time/date stamping. (yeah i know it can be spoofed, bring the days front page of the paper...it cannot be BEFORE that...)

AND MAP them.
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2009, 06:38:34 PM »
OHH  YEAH!!!  THANK LORD!!! I think I need pack my stuff  and MOVE to IDAHO!   :chuckle:


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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2009, 07:19:26 PM »
You might not be goin alone Mulehunter, I was sorta runin that idea around too.

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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2009, 12:05:17 AM »
do these anti groups have nothing better to do with there spare time but bitch.... seriously, its hard enough for me, working, keeping the house up, helping other family members, and everything else to get time to even go camping and hunt. they need to get a damn hobbie of some sort...  :puke:
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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2009, 10:12:43 AM »
Found his Carcass kill and put TrailCamera up there. Got pic of it next day.  I am telling ya Wolves are ALL OVER place!

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Re: Imported canadian wolf kills
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2009, 10:28:46 AM »
Cattle kill was recently Spring By wolves in Okanagon County! Birth Calf one day before the next day kill. BRAND NEW Calf were missing and never found.


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