Author Topic: Late archery Cascade Blacktail (Read 18414 times)

Elkstuffer · « **on:** December 10, 2009, 10:55:30 AM »

This buck finally came into my stand with1/2 hr of shooting light left on my last day to hunt. I had quite a few pictures of him on my trailcam but always in the dark. The full moon was a killer this year. I hit him aways back when he was quartering away but had full arrow penetration through the liver and one lung. I backed out of the area due to darkness and came back the next morning with my son Garric and friend Larry. We had an undescribable day tracking in the snow with the sun shinning down on us. My buck went about 400 yrds and probably expired before I got back to the truck that night. He is a 3x4 with eyeguards, 21" outside spread and good mass throughout. My best archery buck to date.

Skyvalhunter · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:59:26 AM »

congrats on a nice buck.

Dmanmastertracker · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:59:49 AM »

Smoker buck, but aren't those ponderosas in the background.

axelfisher · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:00:29 AM »

What a Buck Congrats! Still hunting for my first Archery kill! THat guy is a Hog for a Blackie!

Track-er · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:01:28 AM »

nice buck.

mike

GoldTip · « **Reply #5 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:03:08 AM »

Great looking buck, congrats!

jdb · « **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:58:43 AM »

great buck rick! congradulations

Buckmark · « **Reply #7 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:06:18 PM »

Nice buck.
I could be wrong, but i think your kid had his shoes on the wrong feet.

SkookumHntr · « **Reply #8 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:07:44 PM »

Blacktail or Benchleg? Nice Buck either way!

Elkstuffer · « **Reply #9 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:08:29 PM »

Sorry if I mislead SOME of you purists. I'm sure that the buck is a cross. Based on the tail, the color (double white throat patch) and the short ears MY guess is that he is more Blacktail than Mule deer.

The purpose of this post wasn't to mislead, but to show off a beautiful animal. If you are offended then kiss my _ _ _!

NWBREW · « **Reply #10 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:10:26 PM »

Quote from: SkookumHntr on December 10, 2009, 12:07:44 PM

Blacktail or Benchleg? Nice Buck either way!

Congrats....That is a beautiful deer

Elkstuffer · « **Reply #11 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:13:32 PM »

Quote from: Buckmark on December 10, 2009, 12:06:18 PM

Nice buck.
I could be wrong, but i think your kid had his shoes on the wrong feet.

Great observation Buckmark! He took his boots off on the sled and I was in a hurry to get them back on his feet since it was 9 degrees.

lewy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:15:36 PM »

Nice deer, congrats!

Dmanmastertracker · « **Reply #13 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:42:27 PM »

It's a really nice deer, I think the point being made is that you were very specific and said Cascade blacktail. If it were a Cascade blacktail it would be a booner, so there is a big difference and the boundary for Cascade blacktails is pretty well defined.

Elkstuffer · « **Reply #14 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:56:47 PM »

The boundary for Cascade blacktail is the Pacific Crest trail. Have you heard of the word "migration"? Do you honestly think that the deer stop at the PCT and turn around and go the other way when the snow gets too deep? I'll call him a Muley if that will make you happy.

jackelope · « **Reply #15 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:03:19 PM »

beautiful buck. congrats elkstuffer.

do we really need to bicker every time this topic comes up?
the guy shot a great deer...leave it at that.

littlebuf · « **Reply #16 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:09:18 PM »

Quote from: jackelope on December 10, 2009, 01:03:19 PM

beautiful buck. congrats elkstuffer.

do we really need to bicker every time this topic comes up?
the guy shot a great deer...leave it at that.

yeah but how smart was the deer

merlo105 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:10:26 PM »

Congrats to a great deer, Very nice bow kill

pat2bear · « **Reply #18 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:14:54 PM »

Lets just call him a cascade mulacktail. And their not very smart, even I've shot a couple of them.

Great buck Ric! Looks like you had a great year with your bow. I think I can tell what your boys thinking looking at his feet like that. " Uh dad, a little help here."

jason4429 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:44:23 PM »

great deer .Thanks for sharing

PacificNWhunter · « **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:52:07 PM »

Nice buck.

MagKarl · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2009, 03:05:37 PM »

Quote from: jackelope on December 10, 2009, 01:03:19 PM

beautiful buck. congrats elkstuffer.

do we really need to bicker every time this topic comes up?
the guy shot a great deer...leave it at that.

Exactly. This Cascade region BT/MD debate is getting old. That's a great deer. Well done.

littlebuf · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2009, 04:47:30 PM »

Quote from: MagKarl on December 10, 2009, 03:05:37 PM

Quote from: jackelope on December 10, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
beautiful buck. congrats elkstuffer.

do we really need to bicker every time this topic comes up?
the guy shot a great deer...leave it at that.

Exactly. This Cascade region BT/MD debate is getting old. That's a great deer. Well done.

well this will get thread jacked pretty quick, i agree but it is a important distinction to make between the two. i hunt pure blacktails and the big buck i shot this year is no comparison to a big buck like hoggsniper's but when measured against other blacktails he's a hog. it all really matters very little how one deer stacks up to another but theres a difference between the species.

270Shooter · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:01:00 PM »

Quote from: littlebuf on December 10, 2009, 01:09:18 PM

Quote from: jackelope on December 10, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
beautiful buck. congrats elkstuffer.

do we really need to bicker every time this topic comes up?
the guy shot a great deer...leave it at that.

yeah but how smart was the deer

Very smart, they are the wiliest deer of them all!!!

Nice buck Elkstuffer, great season!

monster · « **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:16:53 PM »

No matter what its a Very nice Bow Kill, Good job

beave · « **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:37:41 PM »

very nice buck. ...........

Elkstuffer · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:43:10 PM »

Thanks for all the kind words. This was probably one of my best hunting season ever taking a buck and a bull with my bow. Hopefully I can repeat next year and add a pronghorn to the mix. Thanks again.

BENCHLEG · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:16:30 PM »

good luck with the antelope ive been trying for 9 years and now that oregon is 140 bucks for a license i think they can have them. awesome buck and who cares if it is east of the crest trail. regardless it is a hell of an accomplishment you earned it. and the best part you shared it with your son. keep up the good work.

OU812 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:21:31 PM »

Great buck! I've seen the picture of the tail. At least 80% BT, amazing for that far east.

Track-er · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:30:46 PM »

Quote from: jackelope on December 10, 2009, 01:03:19 PM

beautiful buck. congrats elkstuffer.

do we really need to bicker every time this topic comes up?
the guy shot a great deer...leave it at that.

I know how it feels to get beat up about the species??

coonhound · « **Reply #30 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:27:17 PM »

Great buck, congrats on a great year with the bow...that's an accomplishment to be proud of in anyones book.

Coon

Schmalzfam · « **Reply #31 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:50:35 PM »

Nice buck!!! One to be proud of:)

Kowsrule30 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:57:48 PM »

CONGRATS!!!

Red Dawg · « **Reply #33 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:01:31 PM »

wow that is a great cascade blacktail congrats on a great hunt.

bucklucky · « **Reply #34 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:02:25 PM »

Hell of a bench buck man!

andrew_12gauge · « **Reply #35 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:09:00 PM »

hey elkstuffer nice buck man

hornhunter · « **Reply #36 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:46:51 PM »

elk stuffer- Does your boy have his shoes on the wrong feet? I guess the aple doesnt fall far from the tree! Just kidding! Great buck man! congrats!

jason4429 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 12, 2009, 09:03:53 AM »

What gmu were you in,If you don't mind saying

Elkstuffer · « **Reply #38 on:** December 12, 2009, 05:14:06 PM »

West side of 368 (Cowiche)

patton1 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 13, 2009, 02:17:32 PM »

Awesome buck!!!

Kent Hunter · « **Reply #40 on:** December 13, 2009, 03:57:17 PM »

Great buck Elkstuffer!!
You know, with some of the comments that are made by certain people on here Ric. You just have to consider the source.

Dmanmastertracker · « **Reply #41 on:** December 13, 2009, 05:31:38 PM »

Quote from: Elkstuffer on December 10, 2009, 12:56:47 PM

The boundary for Cascade blacktail is the Pacific Crest trail. Have you heard of the word "migration"? Do you honestly think that the deer stop at the PCT and turn around and go the other way when the snow gets too deep? I'll call him a Muley if that will make you happy.

Since the other debate post was locked and since you asked, for myself I would accept the opinion of an officail B&C scorer on the subject and I am not one. Again it is a great deer, muley or blacktail. Based on being harvested in Cowiche, my understanding of the boundary would label it a muley. The purpose of the boundaries is just that, to best define where the majority of that species resides, including migration routes, that is already taken into account of in surveys. Do I think they stray, sure, but I just don't see that as being meaningful to where the "official" boundary is, IMO -I've never seen a deer harvested in N. Bend, Gold Bar, Packwood, and other Western foothill areas called a muley

. For any who care, here is "official" definition from the State book.

Red Dawg · « **Reply #42 on:** December 13, 2009, 05:34:38 PM »

sorry to see that you are getting so much crap elkstuffer. again who really cares anyway.

hogsniper · « **Reply #43 on:** December 13, 2009, 05:48:02 PM »

Man this is really pretty ridiculous....Great buck and thanks for sharing!

Dman your other comments are completely ignorant and the other debate was locked because it was pointless. Go do some bobcat Id or something benefitial to yourself and give it a break!

Dmanmastertracker · « **Reply #44 on:** December 13, 2009, 05:58:35 PM »

Quote from: hogsniper on December 13, 2009, 05:48:02 PM

Man this is really pretty ridiculous....Great buck and thanks for sharing!

Dman your other comments are completely ignorant and the other debate was locked because it was pointless. Go do some bobcat Id or something benefitial to yourself and give it a break!

Thank you for the insight. Ric asked a question so I answered and if you care to read I congratulated him several times on his deer. Grow up just a little.

bucklucky · « **Reply #45 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:35:07 AM »

I do see what you are saying Dman. Technically speaking the buck was shot on the east side out of the so called "cascade Blacktail" boundary so for the washington record books sake the buck couldnt be entered as a cascade blacktail. Now obviousely it is a bench buck or cross. Look at the tail and the ears. So for arguments sake, its 100% bench buck to me

Great buck.

Savage3006 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:41:14 AM »

Beautiful buck! Congrats to you Elkstuffer on a job well done!

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