Multi Season Permit

[winston2789]

Last year I submitted online and wasn't drawn for deer after three different drawing with 3 points. Hope I didn't put in for points only like stiknstringbow was saying  ,but there was no points option . If not... still makes for a good excuse not getting drawn.

[jackelope]

Just spoke with Cody at the WDFW and he said that if you bought your multi season tag you are already submitted. He also said if you then submitted online, it will not affect anything. He said they are going to cross reference the apps with the online submitting. From the sound of his voice, he has got a few calls asking the same question!

well that kinda makes sense sort of...however, how does he explain the individual/group leader/group member choices that I saw in there yesterday??
I'm not sure I would trust that response I guess.

[bobcat]

Maybe it's not an option this year, since that is just something new in the proposal, which hasn't even been approved yet.

after you buy the application you have to go in and submit your application this year. At this point you'll have to choose individual, group leader or group member. I just helped a co-worker through this last night on both the deer and elk m/s applications he bought.
I started a different thread with a warning about this here:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,46571.msg563943.html#msg563943

There has never been a point only option for a multiseason permit...

last year you did not have to submit the application, it happened automatically, and there was only an individual permit option....
just a heads up to all!!! fair warning!!

You do not have to submit your application unless you are applying with a partner. It is done automatically. All you need to do is purchase the application. Again, only submit your application separately if you want to apply with a partner.

This is in the Frequently Asked Questions on their website.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Now I am sure I am going to get drawn...
I am sure that there is no points only option...
Oh, well, I guess you take your chances anytime you deal with those guys in Olympia....

[Elkstuffer]

I believe 4 points is the maximum right now.

I drew elk last year with 4 points so this years max would be 5.

[funkster]

 I feel for my fellow hunting brother's that are on hard times, but this is why I think you should have to front the money for the tag. This is what causes all the redraws anyway. The wdfw ends up with more tags than hunters to buy them. The draw would run so much smoother this way and they could focus their attention on other matters instead of redawing 3 times.

[winston2789]

I agree Funkster, the tag fee should have to be fronted and reimbursed in a couple weeks. Having THREE drawing cause people are finding out you have to pay an additional 160 or whatever for the tag is a bit ridiculous. That just shows how many people backed out....

[Ridgerunner]

No redraws this year they are going to draw more names then # of permits and the first 2000(deer) or 600(elk) to purchase the tag get them, so if you get drawn and really want it have that credit card number handy.

[billythekidrock]

I agree Funkster, the tag fee should have to be fronted and reimbursed in a couple weeks. Having THREE drawing cause people are finding out you have to pay an additional 160 or whatever for the tag is a bit ridiculous. That just shows how many people backed out....

Upfront money that is reimbursed is very costly to the agency.

Why not let them "hold" the money? As long as they didn't raise the fees every year I would front a few hundred for moose and F&W could draw the interest.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Except they draw more applicants than available tags anyhow, so how is it screwing it up?
People not buying tags is NOT the reason for the re-draws,
Besides, I only wanted the point anyhow, and it was by following the direction of the person working for WDFW in licensing anyways that resulted in my error.
And if I do get drawn you can bet your ass that I will find the money somewhere......
Hunting in Washington should not be only for those that have a lot of money.

[winston2789]

Except they draw more applicants than available tags anyhow, so how is it screwing it up?
People not buying tags is NOT the reason for the re-draws,

Whats the reason for the redraw then?    If all the tags were bought then I don't see there being a redraw? In the multi-season case I believe it is the reason, but for other redraws we have had, it was because there were problems in the draw

[Bob33]

People that draw but do not purchase the permit is the reason for the redraw.  In prior years the state has had a quota of multi-season permits.  Assume 500 for elk.  They draw 500 names out of the hat.  The 500 individuals are contacted.  Some of them decide not to pay $180 for the permit.   The state ends up getting only 450 of them to purchase the permits.  There are 50 left over, so they have another draw.  50 names are drawn, and the 50 individuals are contacted.  Only 45 permits are sold.  5 are left so a third draw is run.

This year they will draw something like 1000 names out of the hat.  The first 500 to purchase the permit get one.  End of story.

[KimberRich]

No redraws this year they are going to draw more names then # of permits and the first 2000(deer) or 600(elk) to purchase the tag get them, so if you get drawn and really want it have that credit card number handy.

So if I get drawn do I wait for the notification in the mail or are the results going to be online as well??  I would hate to draw and waste the permit by waiting for mail notification and have all the permits sold by the time I got the letter..  I'm guessing the results will be online but you never know with this state!!

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I stand corrected (almost)
It is actually not a "redraw" as it is a second draw for reaining tags.
If you are drawn and purchase your tag, it has no effect on you, but if you are not drawn the first time there is hope.....
I apologize, but I dont know everything, I just pretend to....
But AGAIN it was not my intention to apply, I just wanted the point...

[winston2789]

Yes your rite... second and third draw, not re-dra., My bad  , But it is lack of buyers lol