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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2010, 09:04:12 PM »
Oh i will probably apply in all just so i can put in partners for cow with my son. I may just put in for points in a fe catagories, still waiting to see what they finalize. I don't get to worked up about maybees... I really think this thing is a done deal and the meeting is to keep people happy, like they will feel like they had some input. I work in gov't and they do it all the time... Changes have been made and they we will have a meeting to make you feel better...
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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2010, 09:51:54 PM »
I do not like the way this has changed. But what i am seeing is the guys making the most noise about the changes are the ones that have drawn in the last few years. The reason you have few points is because you drew a tag. Some of us have never drawn a tag.
I do not like the changes, my son will start hunting this year, he will start the point game this year and that is why i don't like it, he has little chance of drawing. But he still has a chance. Everybody has a chance, that is one of the things i like about our system, it does give those with the most points the better chance but it is still a chance, so those with few points have a chance also.
I like that they changed the late season ML in wind river, west klickitat. That herd needs help. They need to do some logging over there.

Some changes i like some i do not, but i will not listen to someones complaints that they have 1 or 2 points because they drew last year or the year before because there are people out there that have never drawn;.

I am bitchin about it!  And yes, I drew for deer last year, but you know why?  Because I chose to go the route of a bonus deer tag in my neighborhood (for our little island deer), not because I drew a coveted "trophy" tag.  When the bonus tags first came out, they did not take your trophy app points away, they have now for the last two years. 

If a person has a bunch of points because they have chosen to apply for difficult hunts, that is fine, but they should have to pick ONE category to transfer those points to.  Why should it now be 10X harder for me to draw my bonus tag?

I do have a bunch of elk points.  I would be more than happy to have to pick ONE category to transfer those points to.   >:(   >:(

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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 10:46:14 PM »
I would like to see more youth antlerless elk tags instead of giving them all to "Master hunters"  :twocents:

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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2010, 07:47:02 AM »
Its funny how u feel as tho WDFW hates u, yet u think its great that they change my season that has been changed and changed over the past ten years.  First we lost half our season in the wind river and west klickitat, then they took our deer season out of the west klick, then we got an early hunt that we didnt want, now they are proposing changing from either sex to 3 point or better and cutting the season in the washougal in half.  This is BS, and the points system is going to be screwed up for a few years until everyone uses up all their points in every category and everyone is down to zero, but then u can tip the scales in your favor by applying for everything to build up points.  I personally dont have a bunch of disposable income to throw at hunts i dont even want to build up my points quicker.  Like I said before I thought the WDFW had really took a turn for the better by including our group in the decision making process the last time but this stinks of old time politics and shows how poorly the state has been run the last six years.

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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2010, 05:59:52 PM »
Dirt i am not attacking you. I think they should do hat is best for herd health, and hat is best for the herd in the wind river, washougal, west klickitat is to match the rest of SW washington. I also hunt over there and have seen what a zoo it has become over there. e ere over there in the snow last year and saw a total of 6 elk tracks. We used to spend weeks over there not any more. I found other more productive places to hunt.
My moniker on this website is a joke, 3 years ago when the department had the snafu with the draws and had to redraw a few times i was drawn and then after all the redraws i was undrawn, i have never been drawn before so i just figure they must hate me, ya see, just a joke.
I don't have a bunch of disposable income either, but i make do with what i have.
I am a Muzzle loader and feel like we muzzle loaders have been screwed by the wdfw
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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 07:56:34 AM »
Im not concerened about you attacking my position on the issue.  I believe good debate creates positive change.  What my problem is, is that you seem to think that changing those areas to something different is a good idea.  You said that you only saw 6 sets of tracks, I hunted that area also and have haunted that area for the past fifteen years when I switched over to a smoke pole.  There were plenty of tracks, even missed my chance at a cow standing in the road.  As far as the zoo, I agree, and after the chages to the length of the season it seemed to help.  But changing to 3 point of better is a bad idea, the elk herds here before were migratory and would come down once the snow drove them out of the higher elevations.  With no logging of the GP, now these herds have moved in permanently and have run out the deer because of lack of food to sustain both species.  I have lived in Carson most of my life, grew up here and raised my family here.  My opinion of the WDFW is they are a bunch of people from King County, Peirce County, and the other coutnties around Seattle/Tacoma area that really dont have a vested interest in the hunter other than the money the group provides to a state that is spend happy and needs that money to bail them out of their poorly manged dilema.  And as foar as your tag situation I have drawn one tag in my life and ended up eating it.

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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2010, 03:32:34 PM »
I would like to see more youth antlerless elk tags instead of giving them all to "Master hunters"  :twocents:

Yeah I'd rather see some youths or disabled shoot some problem cows around the hay fields here in Ellensburg than some "Master Hunters"  if they are so masterfull then why do they need to hunt in a hay fields.  Plus they can shoot two cows.  How about giving our kids a chance to get something.  THey don't even give out cow permits in the Colockum anymore.  But the "Master Hunters" can shoot two cows.  Tell me that isn't political BS.
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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2010, 04:22:02 PM »
Its not political BS ;), its all about money.  After reading the updated document from March 5, i realized that the WDFW is after as much money as it can get out of all of us.  They changed the units I hunt in for all hunters not just muzzle stuffers, they got archery, and modern also.  But for a few dollars more u can put in for cow permits in those areas, they are going to give out a total of 300 cow permits in those areas during the respective seasons.  Accept for archery and I dont think they hunted those units anyway.  So if they were trying to enhance the herds why would they give out five times the number of permits for cows than are being killed in a typical year?  "MONEY" thats why.  You can use the go hunt portion of the WDFW website to review the harvest reports for for each GMU and see exactly what Im talking about.  The WDFW is not concerned one bit about wildlife management, just where their going to their next dime.  I guess I should have figured we would see something drastic like this when the people working for the WDFW thought the governor was going to start cutting back and they could eventually be without a job.  HMMMMMM lets see how we can increase revenue? HMMMMMM.

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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2010, 04:48:53 PM »
So For some reason I cannot pull up the link. can you please explain on how they changed the point system again?
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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2010, 05:10:01 PM »
Yeah I'd rather see some youths or disabled shoot some problem cows around the hay fields here in Ellensburg than some "Master Hunters"  if they are so masterfull then why do they need to hunt in a hay fields.  Plus they can shoot two cows.  How about giving our kids a chance to get something.  THey don't even give out cow permits in the Colockum anymore.  But the "Master Hunters" can shoot two cows.  Tell me that isn't political BS.

Youth hunters would not be successful enough with muzzelloaders or archery in 3911. After all it is mostly a firearm restriction zone, hence the need for master hunters. Not all of them shoot two elk also. I have had opportunities to kill a cow in 3911, but I didn't because they weren't bothering the property owner.

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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2010, 06:25:31 PM »
O.K so I think I read far enough. You mean to tell me that for elk and deer I only get two choices now? Seriously? Please tell me I read this wrong. What is the purpose of this? I have 14 points and I cant get drawn with four choices what are the chances I get drawn with just two
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Re: New Hunting Regulations
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2010, 07:24:41 PM »
O.K so I think I read far enough. You mean to tell me that for elk and deer I only get two choices now? Seriously? Please tell me I read this wrong. What is the purpose of this? I have 14 points and I cant get drawn with four choices what are the chances I get drawn with just two

Actually, it might surprise you on getting drawn.  I have a feeling there is going to be some pretty good hunts that are a lot easier to draw now.  I'm sure a few like the desert and entiat hunts will still be tough, but if the majority put those down as one or two then other hunts will be better odds. :twocents:  I actually like the two choice system myself.

As for the elk hunts in wind river, west klick, and washougal, I think these changes were needed years ago.  Yeah, it might suck for a few years, but those herds will recover and grow quite well now that they are being managed for elk and your opportunities will increase in the future.

 


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