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WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« on: March 16, 2010, 08:25:05 AM »
WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings,
2010 hunting rules, wildlife-damage issues

OLYMPIA - Hunters got a preview of changes proposed in special-hunt permit drawings and new hunting regulations for the fall 2010 season at a public meeting held here March 12-13 by the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission.

State wildlife managers also briefed the commission and others in attendance on new proposals for addressing public concerns about property damage and other conflicts related to Washington's wildlife.

The commission, which sets policy for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW), allotted time for public comments on all three issues as a prelude to voting on those proposals at public meetings scheduled over the next two months. 

On a separate issue, the commission directed WDFW to analyze options for increasing recreational crabbing opportunities in Puget Sound.  With a stated goal of adopting a new crab-allocation policy by October, commissioners established a timeline for assessing the effects of various fishing options, meeting with advisory boards and providing opportunities for public review of their plans.

Special-hunt permit drawings

In recent years, some hunters have expressed dissatisfaction with the selection process used to issue special-hunt permits, which give successful applicants hunting options beyond those authorized by a general hunting license. 

Many of those frustrations stem from the fact that all special-hunt permits are randomly drawn from the same pool of applications, said Dave Ware, WDFW game manager.  As a result, applicants often face a choice between applying for popular deer and elk hunts or settling for less-popular hunts with better odds of being drawn, he said.

Under a new plan Ware outlined for the commission, WDFW would create separate applications for seven different categories of popular deer and elk permits, ranging from buck or bull hunts to senior permits.  Hunters could apply in as many categories as they choose.

"This plan is designed to give hunters more options for getting the special permits they really want," said Ware, noting that the proposal was developed with broad public input and support from the WDFW's Game Management Advisory Committee.

Under the new plan, "points" accrued by hunters toward special permits in previous years would be applied to each of the new permit categories created under the new plan, Ware said.  All funds raised by the sale of additional permit applications would be used to expand hunter access to private lands.

The commission is scheduled to take action on WDFW's proposal at a meeting set April 9-10 in Leavenworth.  The proposed rule changes are contained in WAC 232-28-291 on the department's website at http://bit.ly/d3a41n .

Changes in hunting regulations

WDFW is also proposing some new hunting rules for the upcoming season, based on changes in state game populations observed since the current three-year hunting plan was adopted last year.  Proposed changes for the fall season include new conservation measures and hunting opportunities for species such as deer, elk, black bear, cougar and small game.  Key actions include:

Deer:   Significant reductions are proposed in the harvest of antlerless white-tailed deer in the Selkirk region, hard-hit by two harsh winters, and on the northern end of the Olympic Peninsula, where the herd continues to have low reproduction rates.
Elk:   General hunting opportunities for antlerless elk would be reduced on the Yakima herd, although new hunting opportunities would be allowed in Game Management Unit 346.
Black bear:   Fall hunting seasons would be delayed in parts of northeast Washington, south central Washington and the Okanogan region to reduce harvest and conserve female bears.  Spring hunting opportunities would be expanded in northeastern Washington and in private timberlands west of Centralia to allow the harvest of more males.
Hunting equipment:   Archers and muzzleloaders would no longer be required to possess a concealed weapons license to carry a handgun for personal protection in the field.   
Specific proposals are posted on the commission's website at http://bit.ly/d3a41n under "March 5 revisions."  The commission is scheduled to take action on WDFW's proposals for the 2010 hunting season at its April 9-10 meeting in Leavenworth.

In a related issue, the commission denied a petition to amend existing white-tailed buck deer seasons in northeastern Washington by adopting special antler restrictions for hunts in Game Management Units 117 and 121. The commission did, however, commit to a public review process and consideration of the proposal for the 2011-12 hunting seasons.

Controlling property damage

Another proposal presented to the commission would give landowners more flexibility to prevent and address property damage caused by wildlife.

A new approach proposed by WDFW would encourage landowners to forge agreements with the department that set out a clear course of action for dealing with damages caused by wildlife on their property.  Those rules would establish specific requirements for both lethal and non-lethal actions, and identify new sources of technical assistance for property owners.

Under the department's proposal, claims for crop damage would be paid only after an assessment by a professional crop insurance adjustor. 

The commission is expected to take action on WDFW's proposal during a conference call scheduled May 7.  The proposed "Wildlife Interaction Rules" are posted on the commission's website at http://bit.ly/db1aCT .
 
Also at the meeting March 12-13 in Olympia, the commission:

Extended the current allocation policy for the non-tribal Columbia River summer chinook fishery by one year.
Received a briefing on 2010 salmon forecasts, conservation needs and fishing opportunities.
Approved the purchase of a 369-acre conservation easement and two properties to benefit wildlife in Okanogan County. 
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 08:49:27 AM »
I have usually given the WDFW the benefit of the doubt on most issues in the past, and I more often than not try to support the decisions they make, but this really pisses me off:

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"This plan is designed to give hunters more options for getting the special permits they really want," said Ware, noting that the proposal was developed with broad public input and support from the WDFW's Game Management Advisory Committee.

There was NO public input!  We only found out about the plan on or about February 4th when they posted it on their website.   >:( :bash:


Not only that, but the statement above by Dave Ware is a lie. There is no way it was designed "for getting the special permits they really want." It's obvious the only intent was to increase revenue. Which I don't have a problem with... I would rather they just kept it the way it was and increase the price of an application from $5 to $15.

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 09:01:56 AM »
Write the commission.  They can still stop this in April.
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 09:07:13 AM »
Their goal is to raise more $$$ I agree. The only way we can convince them what is their/our best intrest is to support them when they do the right thing, and keep our $$$ in our pocket when they don't... I have mixed feeling about this move. On one hand i might be more willing to put in for more that one deer draw withthis system, but the blatant lie about the "public" input makes me realize nothing has changed.. :twocents:
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 09:07:31 AM »
I sent the commision a letter yesterday and I've got another ready to send today.  After reading this, I'm probably going to send another.  Dave Ware really pisses me off......... :bash:
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 09:19:28 AM »
Write the commission.  They can still stop this in April.

I hope many people will write the commission and let them know what they think.  I hope the commission will shut this thing down.  I would love to see the look on Dave Ware's face if the commission votes NO......

This new draw system will do nothing to help the guys with max points trying to draw the most covetted permits.......it will actually probably reduce their chances of drawing.  It will allow them to put in for the easier to draw permits, like antlerless permits, but is it really worth reduced odds of drawing the permit they want in order to be able to apply for antlerless?......I doubt it.

WDFW saying there has been lots of public input is a complete joke...... :ass:
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 09:34:41 AM »
I really don't have too much of a problem with all the different categories, although it seems a lot more complicated than necessary and makes me wonder how reliable the actual drawing will be when they have so many separate drawings to conduct. The biggest problem I have with it is that they want to put a person's points into ALL the categories. This is not a fair way of doing it. A

nd the biggest problem of all, is the fact that they lie and say the public was able to provide input, and that the public supports the changes.

How can they know that when the public has only known of the changes for 6 weeks ???  

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 09:59:40 AM »
For anyone who wants to send letters, here are the names, email addresses, and phone numbers of the people I will be contacting:


Dave Ware, Game Division Manager, Wildlife Program       david.ware@dfw.wa.gov       360-902-2509

(Dave is the person who presented a report on the proposed changes to the special permits at the meeting last Saturday.)

 

Jerry Nelson, Ph.D., Deer and Elk Section Manager, Wildlife Program       jerry.nelson@dfw.wa.gov      360-902-2519

(Jerry gave the report on Deer and Elk General Seasons and Special Permits)


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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 10:04:22 AM »
Here is a list of the Commission members. You need to remember when you write your letters that these people don't necessarily know much, or even anything, about hunting. Just look at the occupations listed for each member:


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Chair:

Miranda Wecker, Naselle
(Western Washington position, Pacific County)
Occupation: Director of the Marine Program, UW Olympic Natural Resources Center
Current Term: 01/01/2007 - 12/31/2012

Vice Chair:

Gary Douvia, Kettle Falls
(At-Large position, Ferry County)
Occupation: Financial consultant
Current Term: 01/15/2007 - 12/31/2012

Commission Members:

Dr. Kenneth Chew, Seattle
(Western Washington position, King County)
Occupation: Retired, Professor of fisheries
Current Term: 01/01/2005 - 12/31/2010

David Jennings, Olympia
(At-Large position, Thurston County)
Occupation: Environmental public health
Current Term: 06/18/2009 - 12/31/2014

Conrad Mahnken, Ph.D., Bainbridge Island
(At-Large position, Kitsap County)
Occupation: Retired, fisheries biologist
Current Term: 11/04/2005 - 12/31/2010

George Orr, Spokane
(Eastern Washington position, Spokane County)
Occupation: Retired firefighter, former state legislator
Current Term: 08/08/2007 - 12/31/2010

Chuck Perry, Moses Lake
(Eastern Washington position, Grant County)
Occupation: Consultant, rangeland/grazing sustainability
Current Term: 01/01/2007 - 12/31/2012

Rolland Schmitten, Leavenworth
(Eastern Washington position, Chelan County)
Occupation: Marine Resources Consultant
Current Term: 06/18/2009 - 12/31/2014

Bradley Smith, Ph.D., Bellingham
(Western Washington position, Whatcom County)
Occupation: Dean, Huxley College of the Environment, Western Washington University
Current Term: 06/18/2009 - 12/31/2014


http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/members.html

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 10:17:44 AM »
Here is a list of the Commission members. You need to remember when you write your letters that these people don't necessarily know much, or even anything, about hunting. Just look at the occupations listed for each member:

 :yeah:

I liked the guys from Spokane, Moses Lake, and Kettle Falls.........they seemed to like hunting and they had some good questions for Jerry Nelson at the meeting last weekend.
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 10:22:10 AM »
Here is a list of the Commission members. You need to remember when you write your letters that these people don't necessarily know much, or even anything, about hunting. Just look at the occupations listed for each member:

 :yeah:

I liked the guys from Spokane, Moses Lake, and Kettle Falls.........they seemed to like hunting and they had some good questions for Jerry Nelson at the meeting last weekend.

Right. The others seemed clueless or at least apathetic as they did not ask any questions...

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 10:53:27 AM »
"All funds raised by the sale of additional permit applications would be used to expand hunter access to private lands."

ya im sure :chuckle:

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 11:00:05 AM »
"All funds raised by the sale of additional permit applications would be used to expand hunter access to private lands."

ya im sure :chuckle:


Yeah, another lie by the WDFW.

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 11:01:06 AM »
If everyone reading this post would send a letter, and ask a friend to send a letter, there is a good chance this can be stopped.  The letters need to go to the commission.  WDFW has already played their hand; they support this.

Be polite, be direct, and be brief.  Ask the commission not to implement this until more extensive public input and debate has been allowed.
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 11:06:48 AM »
I happen to not be a good letter writer....so I will throw this out there as a request...
If anyone is particularly good at writing this sort of letter and wants to form one up for everyone to "copy and paste" that might help. I hope that doesn't come across wrong, I have just found that others are a lot better at putting this stuff onto paper. I tend to be kind of a block when it comes to great writing skills. Not being lazy, just want the best odds of getting our point across...
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