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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2015, 09:20:43 PM »
I actually brought this thread back up to the top because I really wanted an answer to my question: "Are there any elk left in Idaho." Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anyone answer that question yet.   :dunno:

You couldn't figure that out without asking the H-W board?  And your  :chuckle: didn't show that you already knew the answer?

I thought I knew the answer, but wanted to hear it from those who are experts on the subject, like wolfbait and Rockholm66. 

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2015, 09:24:42 PM »
When forecasting game populations in wolf areas, don't make linear assumptions. Remember the predator-prey differential equations. Basically, both populations attempt to reach an equilibrium point. When wolf population is high, their prey population diminishes. Following this episode, due to scarcity of food, wolf numbers decrease which facilitates a rebound in game population. And so the cycle goes.

http://www.phschool.com/atschool/phbio/active_art/predator_prey_simulation/index.html

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2015, 09:28:51 PM »
I actually brought this thread back up to the top because I really wanted an answer to my question: "Are there any elk left in Idaho." Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anyone answer that question yet.   :dunno:

According to the Idaho 2014-2024 Elk Plan, there are over 107,000 elk still in Idaho.
:yike: Stop it.  Sitka is also joking of course...see, there are 1000 wolves and each wolf eats 35 elk per year so 1000x35 = 35000 elk so 107,000 elk in 2010 and you subtract 35000 each year and they went extinct in 2012.
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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2015, 09:45:47 PM »
And besides all that, those that wanted them are most likely living in Cities.  Those people are not going to encounter wolves anywhere near where they live. 

Gosh, Walla Walla must be a million miles away!  And the wolves seen out by Touchet.  Or the dogs that left fist-sized prints outside Burbank that I've seen first hand.  Yup, no wolves by Tri-Cities...

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2015, 09:49:18 PM »
Theres a draw unit in ID that has exceeded the carrying capacity for elk the area is over 2,500 elk! and I have seen wolves and heard them everytime! I hunt the panhandle too and its fantastic! I had over 21 bulls on 1 cam

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2015, 09:52:35 PM »
According to the Idaho 2014-2024 Elk Plan, there are over 107,000 elk still in Idaho.
:yike: Stop it.  Sitka is also joking of course...see, there are 1000 wolves and each wolf eats 35 elk per year so 1000x35 = 35000 elk so 107,000 elk in 2010 and you subtract 35000 each year and they went extinct in 2012.

Here's something more to worry about idahohuntr........ Apparently there is a wolf zombie apocalypse uprising going on right under our noses and I sure haven't seen the leftist tree hugging media reporting on it. It's being covered up by the feds and it's all Obama's fault.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/study-wolf-attacks-still-leading-cause-of-death-in,32170/
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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2015, 09:55:07 PM »
Theres a draw unit in ID that has exceeded the carrying capacity for elk the area is over 2,500 elk! and I have seen wolves and heard them everytime! I hunt the panhandle too and its fantastic! I had over 21 bulls on 1 cam

ya but you obviously moved the camera to 21 different locations  :chuckle:

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2015, 11:20:50 PM »
HAHAHA!

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2015, 01:12:49 AM »
Rocholm66, and Wolfbait’s predictions were wrong.  That’s a fact. Anyone trying to support or defend them is also wrong. It seems to me these prognosticators are always so over confidant of themselves & in your face if you don’t agree with them & their predictions. I commend Bobcat for holding them accountable.  :tup:

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2015, 04:31:45 AM »
You joke and yet you still don't want them on your side of the state.

Classy.

I don't see where anyone wanted them anywhere east or west so whats the point of this statement?  :dunno:
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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2015, 04:33:57 AM »
Despite being wrong they had the best intentions and it's obvious they care about our wildlife,and our future of hunting........most people are only right less than 50% of the time

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2015, 07:12:18 AM »
Kind of funny how the some of the folks taking a jab at these predictions are some of the same folks who stand by the outlandish claims by the Global Warming crowd, even though almost every one of their dire predictions have also not materialized.
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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2015, 07:36:52 AM »
lol.  I cant believe we agree michias!   :chuckle:

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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2015, 07:37:40 AM »
:)  Why, I'm an agreeable type guy!
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Re: Elk will be gone in Idaho by 2012
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2015, 10:21:43 AM »
Yeah just giving ya a hard time.   :chuckle:

 


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