special app draws quick Question

[Bob33]

i was curious about this two. i only put in for antlerless so i dont have to worry about it. but i dont see why if you were to draw two that you couldent choose one, deny the other and let the one that you denied be re-drawn and given to a different hunter.then you would only be able to hunt one and get to keep your points in the one that you denied. sounds like an easy solution to me, gives more opportunities to more hunters and keeps others from wasting points.

The only part of your statement that may not be correct is the "easy solution".  I suspect it would be much harder to implement than it sounds.  First, the multiple permit holder would have to contact WDFW and request that he return one.  WDFW would have to validate that he has the permit.  WDFW would need to void it so he can't use it.  WDFW would need to run another drawing or draw names from a previous list. WDFW could have to contact the new winner. He might have already drawn another permit...and so the job goes.

You are right: that is the way it should be done.  There will probably be many permits thrown away this year because applicants will draw more than one, and only use one.  That is a shame and one more of the "unintended consequences" of this mess they've created.

[Elkaholic daWg]

  Deer, now there's a species where nothing changed in my apps. Only one, and I almost didn't do any at all. Did not buy any for the better 1/2 which I did buy in Elk. gotta save a couple bucks somewhere. I just could not see taking the bait and buying in every category available. see my post in the "feel like I been raped" thread. I actually am ahead of them by $2 from what I might have done

[NRA4LIFE]

For me, never having drawn a special tag in this state, the odds of me drawing 2 in one year have to be astronomical.  I guess 2 is better than none.  However, I believe in this new system, almost any draw is essentially going to be a once in a lifetime draw.  Once you lose your points in this system, you are are forever screwed, IMO.  Even for something like cow elk tags.

[woodswalker]

There is a REASON I put in for mostly Points options...have ONLY the ones I want that do NOT conflict or put me in a win/lose situation.  Rack the points for most of it. I put in for Quality Deer during elk season, a late antlerless tag for late hunting that is a 2nd tag hunt, a turkey tag in the Methow and the same bull elk tag I've been putting in for for a decade now.  EVERYTHING else was points option.

[WDFW-SUX]

I believe in this new system, almost any draw is essentially going to be a once in a lifetime draw.  Once you lose your points in this system, you are are forever screwed, IMO.  Even for something like cow elk tags

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[bobcat]

I believe in this new system

               

[Bob33]

WDFW could fix this by offering packets of points for sale: 1 point, $10: 10 points for $1000.  Then they can set up a "permit exchange" site whereby hunters can sell points and they take a 35% "broker" cut.  Think of all the money they could bring in, and all the extra land access it would generate...They could claim "broad public input and support" for the idea..  

[NRA4LIFE]

I love this new system.  I love giving mass quantities of $$$ to the WDFW and never drawing tags.  I love hunting spikes.  I love hunting deer when it's 85 degrees out.  I love not being able to hunt the ruts.  I love never getting a moose or sheep tag.  I love watching all those rams off HY 410 in my binoculars knowing I will never shoot one.  I LOVE WASHINGTON!

[buckhorn2]

Bob you have a lot of Love there. Thanks for getting me straight on things. I put my money in the pot now the wait starts. Hope you get a good draw you deserve it just for all your help on here.

[WDFW-SUX]

I love this new system.  I love giving mass quantities of $$$ to the WDFW and never drawing tags.  I love hunting spikes.  I love hunting deer when it's 85 degrees out.  I love not being able to hunt the ruts.  I love never getting a moose or sheep tag.  I love watching all those rams off HY 410 in my binoculars knowing I will never shoot one.  I LOVE WASHINGTON!

 

[the1rod]

i was curious about this two. i only put in for antlerless so i dont have to worry about it. but i dont see why if you were to draw two that you couldent choose one, deny the other and let the one that you denied be re-drawn and given to a different hunter.then you would only be able to hunt one and get to keep your points in the one that you denied. sounds like an easy solution to me, gives more opportunities to more hunters and keeps others from wasting points.

The only part of your statement that may not be correct is the "easy solution".  I suspect it would be much harder to implement than it sounds.  First, the multiple permit holder would have to contact WDFW and request that he return one.  WDFW would have to validate that he has the permit.  WDFW would need to void it so he can't use it.  WDFW would need to run another drawing or draw names from a previous list. WDFW could have to contact the new winner. He might have already drawn another permit...and so the job goes.

You are right: that is the way it should be done.  There will probably be many permits thrown away this year because applicants will draw more than one, and only use one.  That is a shame and one more of the "unintended consequences" of this mess they've created.

bob you are right, i was way off in saying "easy". it would be alot of work for WDFW, and unfortunately thats probably what will keep it from happening.

[Caretaker]

This problem wouldn't exist if Dave Ware didn't F*** the system up.  I risk drawing more then I can tag myself.  Previous system didn't allow this to occur.  I would think any snippy lawyer would have a hay day class action lawsuit defending folks.

[Bob33]

I love this new system.  I love giving mass quantities of $$$ to the WDFW and never drawing tags.  I love hunting spikes.  I love hunting deer when it's 85 degrees out.  I love not being able to hunt the ruts.  I love never getting a moose or sheep tag.  I love watching all those rams off HY 410 in my binoculars knowing I will never shoot one.  I LOVE WASHINGTON!

(You must be one of those hunters that was part of the "broad public support" that WDFW claimed for these changes.)

[Bob33]

At this point, all that's left is HOPE for some CHANGE.

(Wait a minute, where have I heard that before...._)

[Caretaker]

My campaign:  NoWare 2010 !!