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second amentment
« on: February 28, 2008, 06:45:26 PM »
ok heres the thing who cares who wins im 57 now heard it all now if we lose that second amentment this spring we lose everything

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 07:26:59 PM »
WTF?

Can you explain a bit, I am sort of slow... :dunno:
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Re: second amentment
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 07:34:05 PM »
ok if they say the second amentment is or secured to bere our right to have guns

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 07:36:00 PM »
opps cant spell lol bear arms

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 07:36:28 PM »
supreme court ruling wa d.c.

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 07:36:43 PM »
Ok, now I understand.
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Re: second amentment
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 07:45:51 PM »
Good issue...  Great point...

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 07:54:10 PM »
pop u r just a young person i did not see it my self untel the DC area was non gun but guess how high the crime has been

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 08:14:02 AM »
DC biggest gun free zone----DC highest crime rate.

Suppose there's a connection :dunno:

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 01:21:43 PM »
Dear Scott,

I wanted to take a moment to share with you the recent decision made by the U.S. Appeals Court in regard to the Washington, D.C. handgun ban. Using the Second Amendment as support, the court voted 2-1 to overturn the handgun ban as unconstitutional and allow for the individual possession of handguns in the District of Columbia.

 

Citing the Second Amendment the majority ruled that the right to bear arms is not restricted solely to militia or military bodies, but rather was intended to be an individual statute. The decision to overturn the ban rejects a law that was passed nearly 30 years ago in D.C. as an anti-crime measure. In response to an appeal of this decision by the appeals court, the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case of District of Columbia v. Heller.

 

I felt that this case was an important battle for gun owners and I, along with 249 other members of the House of Representatives and 55 members of the Senate, signed an Amicus Brief to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and the United States Supreme Court urging them to overturn the gun ban. A copy of this brief can be located at this website: www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/07_290bcongress_amicus_heller.pdf.

 

This ruling by the appeals court is an enormous step forward for gun owners and proponents of Second Amendment rights. I look forward to seeing the outcome of this case at the Supreme Court level and the impact this will have on gun ownership across the country. If you have any further questions on this issue or other issues, please visit my website at www.mcmorris.house.gov.

 

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 01:32:44 PM »
 See video.  I like this lady.

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 10:31:53 PM »
Wow she really puts it into perspective for them.
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Re: second amentment
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2008, 09:57:36 AM »
The arguments start today. Some of the quotes sound pretty good for us. Decision by July I think they said.\

I predict a half-assed response, something like, the 2nd. amendment stands but may be interpreted locally or other nonsense.
I cant see any of the Justices really standing up.
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Re: second amentment
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2008, 10:40:21 AM »
the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.what part of that is open to interpetation >:( :dunno:

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Re: second amentment
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2008, 05:39:43 PM »
Kramman, while I agree whole heartedly with your position, and in fact do beleive that the directness of the statement is clear in its meaning, it is in fact open to interpretation, and here's why.
The exact wording of the second amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The problem is the legal interpretation of the comma that appears after the word 'Arms'.  What is being interpreted is the implied meaning of that comma by those opposed to private fire arms ownership is this:  The government has the right to arm a militia to protect the government AND the citizenry.  The argument here is that the security of a free State shall not be infringed and not directly the right to own fire arms. 

If that comma were not there, (and in fact in some original drafts of the bill of rights it does not) then the meaning would be much better clairfied.  It would then in fact explicitly allow for the citizens to 'keep and bear arms'.  What we need to hope is that the Supreme Court will actually grow a pair this summer and deliver a verdict that defines the second amendment correctly and clearly as we all know and understand it to mean.
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