collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: 270 winchester and IMR 4831  (Read 35109 times)

Offline webbspinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 102
270 winchester and IMR 4831
« on: October 19, 2010, 01:31:10 AM »
checking to see if anyone here loads for 270 winchester and uses IMR 4831, if so what are you running for charge.  loading 130 accubonds and would like to get about 3000fps.  appreciate any thoughts and advice.  have loaded for the 7mm and the 06 (25 and 30) as well as 300 wm but just getting set up for 270 win.  also just worked up some loads for 30-30 using imr 3031 at 30 gr. w/sierra 150 pro hunters, any idea what velocity would be with that one?

Offline high country

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 5133
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 04:55:59 AM »
it takes about 58 grains to get the 270 win to 3k with imr 4831.......at least in my 3.

Offline jeepasaurusrex

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 4368
  • Location: Marysville, WA
  • Animal Population Control Specialist
    • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000828401887
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 05:47:33 AM »
We're shooting 130gr Berger VLD bullets with 56gr of H4831 and they trap at about 3012fps (average of 10 shots). I'm not sure what the comparison of H4831 and IMR 4831 is.  :dunno:
Howa 1500 in .270 Winchester Shootin handloads.

"Vegetarian is an old Indian word for "Bad Hunter"


"If the women don't find you hansom, they should at least find you handy" -Red Green

Offline Hornseeker

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2007
  • Posts: 3097
    • Sapphire Traditional Archery
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 09:52:27 AM »
H and IMR are definitely different... If I were you, Id switch to H4831 SC...easier to handle with a charger... it will work great...
Chuck Norris puts the "Laughter" in "Manslaughter"

Offline webbspinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 102
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 08:34:14 PM »
thinking i will switch to h 4831 sc..  can i get my 3000 fps with this powder without compressing the charge?

Offline high country

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 5133
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 08:45:15 PM »
I have been loading the 270 win for 20 years and every load I throw for my rifles is finished on a scale, so metering is of little value to me. if you already have the imr, give it 57 grains and see what happens. of the 3 I own 2 love 58grs one loves 57.5. all are right at 3k through the lights.

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39201
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 08:51:10 PM »
I use H4831 but IMR should work just as well. They're actually both made by the same company now (Hodgdon.)  I use 58 grains with 150 grain bullets and get 2900 fps. So I am positive you can easily reach 3000 fps with 130 grain bullets. Also another comment since you said you have IMR 3031 on hand. I have a pound of that which I really had no use for. So I loaded up some 270's with it just for fun. Using 130 grain Hornady's and 46 grains of the 3031, they shoot great, and with about half the recoil of my other loads. And from the book I think they're somewhere between 2700 and 2800 feet per second. So still a great deer load and easy on your shoulder.

Offline webbspinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 102
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 10:37:36 PM »
I Think I will give it a try, just a little unused to such a full case with a load.  does it matter that I am loading accubonds? (cause I have them) nosler list the max at 55 gr. which does not seem like nearly the speed I am looking for.

Offline carpsniperg2

  • Site Sponsor
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+126)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2009
  • Posts: 31528
  • Location: Goldendale,WA
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 10:57:34 PM »
i also use h4831 in my 270 win and 270 wsm. the imr is made by the same company like bobcat said. its a great lineup of powders. i have always had great luck with it. 150 grain bullet with 57 grains of h4831 in my 270 win works for that gun.
Owner: SPLIT DIAMOND TACTICAL
Firearms/Transfers/Parts/Optics
2011 HW Head Competition Winner

Offline jeepasaurusrex

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 4368
  • Location: Marysville, WA
  • Animal Population Control Specialist
    • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000828401887
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 05:38:04 AM »
And from the book I think they're somewhere between 2700 and 2800 feet per second. So still a great deer load and easy on your shoulder.

I didn't feel a thing when the gun went off with a buck in the scope.  :chuckle:
Howa 1500 in .270 Winchester Shootin handloads.

"Vegetarian is an old Indian word for "Bad Hunter"


"If the women don't find you hansom, they should at least find you handy" -Red Green

Offline Skyvalhunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 16010
  • Location: Sky valley/Methow
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 05:42:03 AM »
Well at least you didn't end up with a scope cut!!
The only man who never makes a mistake, is the man who never does anything!!
The further one goes into the wilderness, the greater the attraction of its lonely freedom.

Offline jeepasaurusrex

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 4368
  • Location: Marysville, WA
  • Animal Population Control Specialist
    • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000828401887
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 05:50:36 AM »
You know, its funny you say that. I actually remember taking the time to make sure I had a full view through the scope and no shading around the edges. Any will change the impact point of the bullet.
Howa 1500 in .270 Winchester Shootin handloads.

"Vegetarian is an old Indian word for "Bad Hunter"


"If the women don't find you hansom, they should at least find you handy" -Red Green

Offline C-Money

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 10937
  • Location: Grant County
  • Self proclaimed 3pt master
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 06:47:59 AM »
The 270win and IMR-4831 is like peas & carrots! Great combo! Look in the Nosler book and work up a load. Any and all in the book should be very accurate. I use RL-19 in my 270win. The burn rates are similar between RL-19 & IMR 4831. I use 55 gr of RL-19with a 140 Accubond and get 3000fps consistently. I too measure every load in the scale before it goes into a case. I even scoop the powder out of the jug and put it on the scale with a old spoon. Takes a little longer, but I know what is in every round, and they are all the same.
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

Offline high country

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 5133
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2010, 05:00:12 PM »
I have put up some good speeds with the re powders, but I have found them to be much more tempermental then imr or hodgdon.

Offline webbspinner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 102
Re: 270 winchester and IMR 4831
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2010, 12:35:47 AM »
looks like I am on the right track, thanks for all the info.  anybody having any luck with the ct bullets for loading , got some balistic silvertips price was right. what is every ones favorite bullets for the old 270.?

 


* Advertisement

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal