using illumanock in Wa

[Button Nubbs]

I'm neither for them nor against them. If someone wants to use them fine, as long as it dosent shorten my season. I won't use them because I would rather have more foc equating in better arrow flight. Another problem I could see are lumenocks creating form issues for people I.e. Peeking over the bow To see the shot and where it hits the animal. I do have to admit they look pretty cool in the air though

[Decker]

Welcome back Popeshawnpaul.  This will be my last post on this subject, I don't want to be accused of trying to control the topic.      I thought both sides were presenting their views and opinions and most are doing a good job.  I think the reason alot of guys are passionate about this and other subjects is we see it as a threat to a sport we hold very near and dear to our hearts.  I think alot of new bowhunters, and I'm not including everyone involved in this discussion, but alot of the new bowhunters in the sport today who have to have the latest and greatest toys, the super fast bows, shoot long distances, have no real passion for the sport of bowhunting.  If things go away they will shrug their shoulders and go to the next sport and start demanding all the latest gadgets for that sport.  They haven't lost something that is a life long passion.  Since I moved to this state I have lost two things that were and are the most dearest to my heart, trapping and running dogs.  I don't want to see bowhunting be the third thing, maybe it won't.  This just seems another step in that direction.  Welcome back, I hope you stick around.

  

I apologize for waving the dirty flag, but why else would they be there if we can't have a little fun with em, especially during a heated debate. I was merely calling Malachias stupid because he is... JUST KIDDING! Simmer down, simmer down now. I think both sides have a reasonable argument. I think valid reasons have been given WHY they would beneficial, to help recover game. Something to consider - the hunter who would consider the use of a Luminok during after hours light to aid their shooting will most likely be using some sort of pin lighting enhancer also. They are the types that are ALREADY using them illegally. To say that honest people shouldn't be able to use them because people could use them to shoot under dark conditions is the same argument for taking away our hand guns. The criminals will have them either way.

I am going to change my support of the Luminok in favor of a (hopefully some day) invented Lumibroadhead...no wait...LumiSHAFT. Heck, let's light the whole dang thing up!

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Probably not to difficult if you use glowstick/fiber optic technology.  Probably be able to design a chemical (non poisonous, of course) powered luminok to get past the electronic stipulation.

glow sticks and clear florescent nocks...

[Superhunter333]

We are living in modern times new tech is being developed every day. Some people are set in there ways. I'm sure when the type writers came out there were people who were pro pencil. When the compound came out I'm sure this same discussion happend over and over. is anybody wrong? no. I don't see how a lighted nock helps a bow hunter in any way other then they can see the arrow placement better. Which is a good thing is it not? Maybe with that extra knowledge it can help hunters make better decision on weather to back out or pursue making recovery chances better. Will it encourage hunters to make longer and unethical shots? You still have to aim a lighted nock doesn't help you aim. I'm not saying we need to go totally tech any electronic that helps a hunter aim shoot or see in the dark should be outlawed. Those who say "this will lead to other stuff" or "were does the technology stop" you might as well bury your head in a hole cause you cant stop technology. its gonna happen it may take 10 years but its inevitable. And we already have heat seeking arrows their called bullets. 

[rasbo]

We are living in modern times new tech is being developed every day. Some people are set in there ways. I'm sure when the type writers came out there were people who were pro pencil. When the compound came out I'm sure this same discussion happend over and over. is anybody wrong? no. I don't see how a lighted nock helps a bow hunter in any way other then they can see the arrow placement better. Which is a good thing is it not? Maybe with that extra knowledge it can help hunters make better decision on weather to back out or pursue making recovery chances better. Will it encourage hunters to make longer and unethical shots? You still have to aim a lighted nock doesn't help you aim. I'm not saying we need to go totally tech any electronic that helps a hunter aim shoot or see in the dark should be outlawed. Those who say "this will lead to other stuff" or "were does the technology stop" you might as well bury your head in a hole cause you cant stop technology. its gonna happen it may take 10 years but its inevitable. And we already have heat seeking arrows their called bullets. 

well if its more technology ya want,drop the bow,and buy a gun

[billythekidrock]

 

[DaveBTS]

There are the new Zeon Fusion vanes that use fiber optic technology by absorbing light. Thus, negating the need for lighted nocks.

www.norwayindustries.com

[Buckrub]

Wow... turned into quite a debate.
When I started bowhunting in 1972 technology was quite limited.
Looking back I see bow technology today compared to 1972 and see mind staggering differences... does technology make the bow hunters of today less of hunters than the past? I think not, back in the day there were still bowhunters who would outshoot capabilities with or without technology. What have we gained?? 30 yds?
Regardless of technology, public image and game management will be the biggest hurdles for any hunting sport.

To embrace technology one must first look back at the transition of the past thirty years, illuminocks being least of worries in the overall scope.

Wolf introduction may be the damnation of hunting, while we squabble over lighted nocks the greeners are out to strip hunters of basic privileges....time to embrace hunters regardless of technology and differences for the greater good of hunting privileges.

[dscubame]

For you guys that are not in support I would be interested if you had the same take on the issue when it came to range finders being introduced to the sport?

[Lowedog]

Wow... turned into quite a debate.
When I started bowhunting in 1972 technology was quite limited.
Looking back I see bow technology today compared to 1972 and see mind staggering differences... does technology make the bow hunters of today less of hunters than the past? I think not, back in the day there were still bowhunters who would outshoot capabilities with or without technology. What have we gained?? 30 yds?
Regardless of technology, public image and game management will be the biggest hurdles for any hunting sport.

To embrace technology one must first look back at the transition of the past thirty years, illuminocks being least of worries in the overall scope.

Wolf introduction may be the damnation of hunting, while we squabble over lighted nocks the greeners are out to strip hunters of basic privileges....time to embrace hunters regardless of technology and differences for the greater good of hunting privileges.

Very well said Buckrub! 

[Machias]

Welcome back Popeshawnpaul.  This will be my last post on this subject, I don't want to be accused of trying to control the topic.      I thought both sides were presenting their views and opinions and most are doing a good job.  I think the reason alot of guys are passionate about this and other subjects is we see it as a threat to a sport we hold very near and dear to our hearts.  I think alot of new bowhunters, and I'm not including everyone involved in this discussion, but alot of the new bowhunters in the sport today who have to have the latest and greatest toys, the super fast bows, shoot long distances, have no real passion for the sport of bowhunting.  If things go away they will shrug their shoulders and go to the next sport and start demanding all the latest gadgets for that sport.  They haven't lost something that is a life long passion.  Since I moved to this state I have lost two things that were and are the most dearest to my heart, trapping and running dogs.  I don't want to see bowhunting be the third thing, maybe it won't.  This just seems another step in that direction.  Welcome back, I hope you stick around.

  

I apologize for waving the dirty flag, but why else would they be there if we can't have a little fun with em, especially during a heated debate. I was merely calling Malachias stupid because he is... JUST KIDDING! Simmer down, simmer down now. I think both sides have a reasonable argument. I think valid reasons have been given WHY they would beneficial, to help recover game. Something to consider - the hunter who would consider the use of a Luminok during after hours light to aid their shooting will most likely be using some sort of pin lighting enhancer also. They are the types that are ALREADY using them illegally. To say that honest people shouldn't be able to use them because people could use them to shoot under dark conditions is the same argument for taking away our hand guns. The criminals will have them either way.

I am going to change my support of the Luminok in favor of a (hopefully some day) invented Lumibroadhead...no wait...LumiSHAFT. Heck, let's light the whole dang thing up!

 

[Snapshot]

There are the new Zeon Fusion vanes that use fiber optic technology by absorbing light. Thus, negating the need for lighted nocks.

www.norwayindustries.com

There is a fine alternative. You can see it and it isn't electric. Everybody (except Lumenoc) is happy.

[boneaddict]

What amazes me is how much energy is being put into this.   Buckrub says it best...

Wolf introduction may be the damnation of hunting, while we squabble over lighted nocks the greeners are out to strip hunters of basic privileges...

Someone has an agenda.  Lobby lobby lobby.   Why not lobby for something important.   If you need a Tron like arrow in order to see where you shot it well then.......    Its basic attrition.   I don't like them, but could really careless I guess as there are more important things to fight for.  Why not put some of this energy into overthrowing the treaties. 
It amazes me how many deer I have killed without a lighted nock, and how many I haven't lsot because of basic woodsman skills.  It also amazes me how I find my arrows as well.  There must be some real flingers out there.   

[Snapshot]

For you guys that are not in support I would be interested if you had the same take on the issue when it came to range finders being introduced to the sport?

I've never looked through one. (There's creole-tag, smoked-tag, tag-alfredo...)

[Snapshot]

What amazes me is how much energy is being put into this.   Buckrub says it best...

Wolf introduction may be the damnation of hunting, while we squabble over lighted nocks the greeners are out to strip hunters of basic privileges...

Someone has an agenda.  Lobby lobby lobby.   Why not lobby for something important.   If you need a Tron like arrow in order to see where you shot it well then.......    Its basic attrition.   I don't like them, but could really careless I guess as there are more important things to fight for.  Why not put some of this energy into overthrowing the treaties. 
It amazes me how many deer I have killed without a lighted nock, and how many I haven't lsot because of basic woodsman skills.  It also amazes me how I find my arrows as well.  There must be some real flingers out there.   

 

We are losing time in the field and folks what to "modernize bowhunting" instead of getting into the trenches and gaining us more units and/or time. It is misplaced energy.