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Offline Seabeckian

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Multiseason odds?
« on: April 15, 2011, 10:13:56 PM »
Found out I got drawn for the multiseason deer tag tonight, and I was just wondering if anyone has been able to find any of last years (or any other years) statistics on how many people put in for the multiseason deer and/or elk tags. I can find about every other stat on WDFW's website, but nothing regarding how many people actually put in for the multiseason tags. I did hear its an easier draw. Hopefully I didn't miss someone recently posting this same question. :dunno: THANKS!
« Last Edit: April 15, 2011, 10:44:09 PM by bobcat »

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 10:15:44 PM »
odds*  ;)

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 10:43:09 PM »
I looked for those numbers too, a while back, and couldn't find anything. I suppose an email or a phone call to the WDFW in Olympia, might get you an answer, if you happen to get the right person. I'd be curious to know how many people applied for the deer this year. I thought it  would be a sure thing, with 4000 permits being available. (but I didn't get it)

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 10:57:47 PM »
bobcat, I think you can still get one as long as some of the people selected don't buy their permit.

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 11:44:41 PM »
I looked for those numbers too, a while back, and couldn't find anything. I suppose an email or a phone call to the WDFW in Olympia, might get you an answer, if you happen to get the right person. I'd be curious to know how many people applied for the deer this year. I thought it  would be a sure thing, with 4000 permits being available. (but I didn't get it)

This year there were only 2000 available. I could be wrong, but looking at the application deadline dates in the regs; the 2010 regs is what shows this years multiple season application page (pg. 76). Which makes sense since you have to apply before the 2011 regs are available. Next year is when I believe the tag quotas increase.

Hopefully someone has made the phone call and can provide us with the info on how many people applied. Otherwise... I will be taking your advice and try giving someone from the dept. a call monday to get this mystery question solved. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 12:03:40 AM »
Seabeckian- you make a good point. If that is true then there are a lot of us who have this all wrong. The 2010 regs also say:
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If selected, multi-season tags will be available on a first come, first served basis until the quota is reached. Once the quota is
reached, multi-season tag sales will end.

So which one is it? Is it first come, first serve? Or is it that anyone who draws can purchase a multi-season tag up until September 1st? Now I'm confused.   :dunno:

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2011, 12:42:17 AM »
That is confusing.  Almost like they drew more people than they had permits reserved for.  I would *assume* that if you hold a drawing for 4,000 permits that you only select 4,000 hunters--especially if they're paying for the drawing.
That statement makes it seem like they drew more hunters than permits, then let the selectees figure out who actually gets the permit.  So just being drawn wouldn't guarantee a permit.
For some reason I thought that if they don't sell the quota by Sep 1st, the unsold permits would be available without having been drawn.
I could be wrong, just how I read it. 

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 12:48:17 AM »
No more confusion. I found this:

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WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE

NEWS RELEASE
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
February 24, 2011
Contact: Wildlife Program, (360) 902-2515
 
Hunters have until March 31
to apply for multiple-season permits

OLYMPIA - Deer and elk hunters have until March 31 to enter their name in a drawing for a 2011 multiple-season permit, which can greatly increase their opportunities for success in the field.
In early April, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) will randomly draw names for 4,000 multiple-season deer permits and 850 multiple-season elk permits.
Winners of the drawing will be eligible to purchase a special tag allowing them to participate in archery, muzzleloader and modern-firearm general hunting seasons for deer or elk in 2011. Winners who purchase the multiple-season elk tag by Aug. 31 can participate in general elk-hunting season in both eastern and western Washington.
Winners also may apply for any weapon type deer or elk special permit.
“This is a great opportunity for hunters to extend their hunting season this fall,” said Dave Ware, game manager for WDFW. “Rather than having to choose one hunting method over another, hunters drawn for a multiple-season permit who purchase the tag can participate in multiple seasons.”
Ware noted that the tags can only be used during general seasons and in game management units that are open during a modern firearm, muzzleloader, or archery general season.  For example, winners may not hunt during the muzzleloader general season in an area that is not open for the muzzleloader general season.
Also, hunters can apply only once for each species and are limited to harvesting one deer or elk.
Hunters may purchase a multiple-season permit application at an authorized license dealer, listed at http://wdfw.wa.gov/lic/vendors/vendors.htm, or by calling (866) 246-9453. The permit application is $6.50 for residents and $60.50 for nonresidents.
A 2011 hunting license is not required to submit an application, but winners of the drawing must purchase one before they can purchase a multiple-season tag.
Hunting licenses and multi-season tags can be purchased from local license dealers, on the Internet (http://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/) or by calling (866) 246-9453. Multiple-season deer or elk tags cost $180.50 for residents and $1,800.50 for nonresidents, including transaction fees. These figures do not include the cost of an annual hunting license. 


http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/release.php?id=feb2411b
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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 12:56:50 AM »
so im liking the way this reads. it means if cant scramble 240 together in the next week i can wont lose my tag.   i like knowing i have a little time to come up with the money.   :)
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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 06:51:39 AM »
It appears that the odds are greatly dependent on who you are. For instance, despite having three or four points, I have a 0% chance of drawing.  My dad, on the other hand, evidently has a 100% chance of drawing every year.  He doesn't need no stinkin' points to draw.  I'm not even sure if he puts in - I think that they just send him one.

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011, 07:11:21 AM »
I think they intentionally draw a few more names then they plan on selling.  That is probably why they give guys so long to purchase them plus they don't have to redraw.

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2011, 11:01:13 AM »
Well yeah, they drew 2000 more names for the deer than they expect to sell. It will be interesting to see how many are actually sold.

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2011, 12:36:45 PM »
man i had a feeling i would draw deer for sure but i have yet to talk to anyone how has

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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2011, 04:35:26 PM »
I also drew a multi season deer tag and i dont have good luck.
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Re: Multiseason odds?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2011, 05:12:41 PM »
i drew had 4 points though :o

 


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