mud flow bulls

[longbow11b1p]

What would be considered "a big bull" for the mudflow unit.I've always hunted the trout lake area so a 275 plus is what I would consider on the big side for that area. but now that I have a Mf tag i have been up 6 times and what I'm seeing is not much bigger. Don't get me wrong there are some great bulls  up there and it is early but is holding out for a 300+ a reasonable goal or is this a overated unit.   Ps.  I plan on eating my tag if I don't see what I want.

[bucklucky]

300 bull in there is a big streatch. You find a 270 bull you better shoot. I know about 1/2 a handfull of bulls that have made 300 out of that area and surrounding.

[YoterHunter]

Ihunted it last year archery cow tag seen alot of bulls .most are respectical 5x5s i did see a couple around 350 .but not meany. good luck.

[TopOfTheFoodChain]

Better get scouting. There are plenty of nice larger bulls there and good access to them if you know your way around 

[bucklucky]

Just keep in mind longbow, Im pretty OK at scoring bulls on the hoof and most people I talk to that say they seen 350 bulls in there are about 75 inches off. I spent my whole life down there and know what there is. Good luck and if you get lucky and find that 1 in 500 type bull over 300 more power to you!! There is a few but way far and few between.

[Turkeyman]

Just keep in mind longbow, Im pretty OK at scoring bulls on the hoof and most people I talk to that say they seen 350 bulls in there are about 75 inches off. I spent my whole life down there and know what there is. Good luck and if you get lucky and find that 1 in 500 type bull over 300 more power to you!! There is a few but way far and few between.

Bucklucky is right on. I have hunted that area my hole life and i can count on one hand how many 300" bulls i have seen. There are alot of bulls just not big bulls.

[Jackjr]

Just keep in mind longbow, Im pretty OK at scoring bulls on the hoof and most people I talk to that say they seen 350 bulls in there are about 75 inches off. I spent my whole life down there and know what there is. Good luck and if you get lucky and find that 1 in 500 type bull over 300 more power to you!! There is a few but way far and few between.

  I agree with Charlie.  I am no expert for sure on scoring.   But I do know if you play the score this bull game with charlie most people wont win.  Ok Charlie dont get a big head now I wish he was wrong with his post because I have the tag myself.   But it is what it is.  I have spent alot of time up there over time.  Man it sucks getting old.  I also have friends that have grown up in the area there whole life.   I dont consider it a trophy hunt as far as high scoring bulls go.  But it is a great chance and getting a decent bull and I think any bull with a bow is a good bull.
but like everyone says there is always a chance at a 300 inch bull in any unit.  I can count on one hand how many bulls that I would say was over 300 in there and most of them are farther up the mountian.  but like I said I am no expert.  Just my 

[bucklucky]

But of course, you never know what might be hiding in that thick jack firs, just might get lucky and kill a 350 bull . One never knows.

[elkslayer069]

Same here guys i got some dandy sheds outta up there but not one of them is a 300 inch bull 275-280 maybe. I plan on shoot the first 260 bull i see in the margaret on the 5th of november. 

[bucklucky]

You know what, I screwed this post up, there are 350 bulls running all over the Toutle, mudflow and margret  Best unit in the state  And there is no elk in the blues 

[elkslayer069]

lol yeah but ill kill a desent rosey every year or every other than hunt spikes 100 miles from home to put in east side permits

[Jackjr]

Thanks Charlie now everyone knows where the best elk unit in the state is.  Just because you did not draw it and drew that other tag where there is no elk  you did not have to mess it up for the rest of us.    

[bucklucky]

Now watch Jack, a bunch of 350 bulls get killed in there this year   

[Jackjr]

Now watch Jack, a bunch of 350 bulls get killed in there this year   

Ya sure    Since they are all over up there this year.  I will Bring mine to you to get mounted this year so save me a spot

[bucklucky]

Now watch Jack, a bunch of 350 bulls get killed in there this year   

Ya sure    Since they are all over up there this year.  I will Bring mine to you to get mounted this year so save me a spot

You kill a 350 bull in there and I'll do it for free, you just buy the form and eyes 

[BOWHUNTER45]

yeah just find a nice bull and kill it  :tup I know I would never say I am eating my tag ...not even an option as long as I have the chance to put meat in my freezer 

[longbow11b1p]

  mmmm.. tag soup.

[bowhuntersd]

I wouldn't set my sites on taking something over 300" but you'll find some great bulls 270"-290". There is bulls in there that will go 300"320", but will be 1 in a 100 to find. As far as bulls going 350", that would be a first for me..... I've never seen or even heard of a bull that size up there, but you never know I guess  . Some guys I know have had that tag over the last few years and have done very well, they took a 282" and a 276" bull out of there. Best of luck

[bucklucky]

I wouldn't set my sites on taking something over 300" but you'll find some great bulls 270"-290". There is bulls in there that will go 300"320", but will be 1 in a 100 to find. As far as bulls going 350", that would be a first for me..... I've never seen or even heard of a bull that size up there, but you never know I guess  . Some guys I know have had that tag over the last few years and have done very well, they took a 282" and a 276" bull out of there. Best of luck

Did see a 340 bull about 10 years ago but thats the biggest I ever seen in there. And that was a 1 time deal.

[Jackjr]

Did see a 340 bull about 10 years ago but thats the biggest I ever seen in there. And that was a 1 time deal.
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Just think how big that one is now

[bucklucky]

I think it got poached as he hung around the highway and was never seen again after that day?? I dunno , might have ran back to the colocum 

[Bigshooter]

As has been said 350 is one helluva bull.  In the mud flow and the bordering units a good 6x6 will score 270-285 tops.  But if score doesn't matter, you might get lucky and find one of those old bulls that is crowned on top.  He won't score well but he might have 7 or 8 points on a side and they look cool.

[RadSav]

I too have spent a good bit of time up there.  I've seen only two bulls I am confident enough to say would go over 300.  That's huge!  Just think about it - 300 inches is 25 feet of horn length & girth. Plus some for deductions.  Pull out a 25' measuring tape...that's a lot of inches!!!

Only a few handfuls of Cascade Rosies outside of King and Pierce County in the Washington state record book measuring that.  As of 2005 there was not one single entry from Cowlitz Co. over 350 and only two from Skamania Co. over 350.

I think anything over 280 in the Mud Flow is an outstanding trophy.  One to definately be proud of.  And you'll probably have to work hard to find one of those.

This ain't the Outdoor Life Channel or Eastman's Outdoor Journal.  It's Washington's wet side.  Trophy has a different score/meaning over here.

Best of luck.  Should be one heck of a good hunt!

[bucklucky]

As has been said 350 is one helluva bull.  In the mud flow and the bordering units a good 6x6 will score 270-285 tops.  But if score doesn't matter, you might get lucky and find one of those old bulls that is crowned on top.  He won't score well but he might have 7 or 8 points on a side and they look cool.

ANd those bulls look sweet!! Probably be black horned too if your lucky 

[bowhuntersd]

I too have spent a good bit of time up there.  I've seen only two bulls I am confident enough to say would go over 300.  That's huge!  Just think about it - 300 inches is 25 feet of horn length & girth. Plus some for deductions.  Pull out a 25' measuring tape...that's a lot of inches!!!

Only a few handfuls of Cascade Rosies outside of King and Pierce County in the Washington state record book measuring that.  As of 2005 there was not one single entry from Cowlitz Co. over 350 and only two from Skamania Co. over 350.

I think anything over 280 in the Mud Flow is an outstanding trophy.  One to definately be proud of.  And you'll probably have to work hard to find one of those.

This ain't the Outdoor Life Channel or Eastman's Outdoor Journal.  It's Washington's wet side.  Trophy has a different score/meaning over here.

Best of luck.  Should be one heck of a good hunt!

I couldn't agree with you more... This is a man that realy knows what a wet side trophy is.  Best of luck

[heavy hauler]

i have spent a few days in that area over the years    and i have only seen a few that would be close to 300.   you will see a ton of 5x5 bulls then maybe a cheater 6x5 or 6x6 or two. if you hold out you could get a 300 bull.  just get be prepared to eat that tag 

[Jeremiah P]

I have a buddy who the last two years his bulls from winston have scored 298" in 2009, and 317" last year, the bad thing is that the bull he shot last year was a spot I told him to hunt 

[bucklucky]

I have a buddy who the last two years his bulls from winston have scored 298" in 2009, and 317" last year, the bad thing is that the bull he shot last year was a spot I told him to hunt 

You shouldnt even say that kind if stuff as thats the end that hold a few of them bulls 

[dylanb]

a freind of mine had a youth tag and missed a 270ish 6x5 ended up killing a 257 inch 5x5 so i would hold out or 260 plus

[Trailstrider]

  If you get into a decent 6x6 better be pulling the triger and let the work start. Have been hunting Elk in this corner of the state for 35 years and taken 23 Elk in the last 30,,,, Your only prayer is for the snow to fly early and drive them down out of Miners creek to the vally floor.... at any rate you should have a good chance at taking a bull. Good Luck and good hunting!

[rangerstx2316]

I have a buddy who the last two years his bulls from winston have scored 298" in 2009, and 317" last year, the bad thing is that the bull he shot last year was a spot I told him to hunt 

do you have any pictures i would like to see what a 300 class winton bull looks like.

[BENCHLEG]

have fun this kind of talk over the years is why this tag is over-rated. good luck and i hope you kill the state record.

[bucklucky]

I scored a bull that went 298 out of the winston, it was a dandy black horned bull.

[Jeremiah P]

This is his 317" from last year, not the best pics but you get the idea

[bucklucky]

317?? Gues the pics dont do it justice. Dandy Bull!!!

[Jeremiah P]

317?? Gues the pics dont do it justice. Dandy Bull!!!

Not sure but it was scored by Alden, he is really good friends with him.

[SkookumHntr]

-Go look at those sheds in the gas station in Randle, they were found in that neck of the woods, if you have doubts of 300 bulls runnin around up there, well there ya go.. He will be in the mid 300 range..

[rangerstx2316]

that is a really  nice bull. you dont see them like that very often. i would be proud to have him hanging on my wall

[RadSav]

Those are the ones you mount under the bed....because that's where monsters live!

Dandy of a wet side bull.  One of the nicest I've seen from 520.