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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2011, 07:58:55 AM »
The rumor that was flying around was that we would manage them for this side of Washington. But I wont say it is set in stone as of yet. There are arguments of four possible sightings on the res so far this year.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2011, 11:25:43 PM »
I've hunted just south of Republic every year for the last 30 years. I've taken a buck almost every year with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 years. The last two years, I never saw a buck. (Except in town!) Hunted the same areas as usual.
There used to be tons of deer. It would be nothing for us to see 25-30 deer in a day. On opening weekend, we'd have 3 or 4 bucks hanging. No more.

The tribes can shoot does and fawns. When you shoot a doe, think how many potential offspring you are eliminating. That's wrong. The herds are not in good shape in my opinion. Stop shooting does!

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2011, 11:29:40 PM »
The wolves and cats as well as the tribe are taking a toll South of Republic.  I agree with cutting off the doe hunting!  It makes a guy sick to see a truck with 6 or 8 does and little bucks piled in the back of a tribal member's truck in August headed to be sold to some illegal orchard worker for $40-$50 per carcass.   :bash: :bash:

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2011, 06:09:58 AM »
Right on, PolarBear. Stop shooting does! As far as cats go, when I bought my tags, the season for cougar was closed in Okanogan East during deer season. Then, just the other day I got an email from WDFW telling me that it is now legal to hunt cougar in every GMU. But, I checked the regs and it looks like they don't sell a cougar tag by itself. It shows Bear and Cougar for $26 bucks. I used to always buy the combo Deer+Elk+Bear+Cougar. Bear or Cougar tags used to be $5.
I'm not paying $26. This will probably be the year that a cougar runs in front of me, though. I'm also hearing reports of wolves in this unit now. At least Idaho knows how to deal with them. I doubt that WDFW will take the same approach. Good luck on Saturday, guys!

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 09:32:44 AM »
I've spent a lot of time throughout my life on and around the Colville Reservation and I have never once seen "a truck with 6 or 8 does and little bucks piled in the back of a tribal member's truck".... I guess it sounds better to exaggerate the truth. Anyway, the deer are doing as well in Ferry County as they are in the rest of the state. People just want something to complain about as to why they don't see any deer so obviously, it must be the tribes fault.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2011, 09:40:38 AM »
they are all poachers in my book       POACHERS

They are not all poachers. I can understand the argument that it is wrong that when they do take game out of their season there is often little punishment. But to call them all poachers isn't helpful. There are Tribal people on this site that are against many of the same things we are. It is not helpful to disrespect ALL of them. We need the good Tribal members to make things better.


Wenatcheejay, I am not being a smart ass here or being disrespectful,, just asking the question...

 so are the "good Tribal members" actually trying to make things better?  Or do they turn a blind eye, and a deaf ear to the wanton slaughter of animals in certain areas?   I ask because I was always told, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.   :dunno: :dunno:
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2011, 11:25:43 AM »
I've spent a lot of time throughout my life on and around the Colville Reservation and I have never once seen "a truck with 6 or 8 does and little bucks piled in the back of a tribal member's truck".... I guess it sounds better to exaggerate the truth. Anyway, the deer are doing as well in Ferry County as they are in the rest of the state. People just want something to complain about as to why they don't see any deer so obviously, it must be the tribes fault.
It is absolutely not an "exaggeration"!  I as well as many of my cousins and my hunting buddy (who happens to live on a forrest service road near the rez line in Republic) have all seen it with our own eyes on several occasions. A couple friends of our who own orchards in Chelan have told us about the Colvilles showing up to their farms with deer stacked like cord wood in the back looking to sell them to his workers.  It is not just some isolated incident or "exaggerated truth".  The declining deer population in some areas is NOT solely because of the tribes, there are a ton of other factors, non tribal poaching, predators, weather etc, but the tribes are a contributor to the problem.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2011, 11:47:23 AM »
they are all poachers in my book       POACHERS

They are not all poachers. I can understand the argument that it is wrong that when they do take game out of their season there is often little punishment. But to call them all poachers isn't helpful. There are Tribal people on this site that are against many of the same things we are. It is not helpful to disrespect ALL of them. We need the good Tribal members to make things better.


Wenatcheejay, I am not being a smart ass here or being disrespectful,, just asking the question...

 so are the "good Tribal members" actually trying to make things better?  Or do they turn a blind eye, and a deaf ear to the wanton slaughter of animals in certain areas?   I ask because I was always told, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.   :dunno: :dunno:

Yes there are those of us who are trying to do something about those that abuse their rights by breaking the law.  For example the Hanford Bulls.  The second I start asking for information from other forum members on here one of them comes on here and says "somebody is snooping around, asking questions and trying to build a case against them and I don't trust him so I didn't tell him much."

That was me and I'm the bad guy?  I have tried to find out from forum members and people here back home to figure out if any laws were broken but I haven't been able to pinpoint an exact location other than near the 240 road and nobody has yet to come forward and say if they were shot north or south.  Other than close to Hanford or near it. 

I heard it with my own ears and read it with my own eyes and know where we can't hunt down there and if they broke the law then they should be turned over to law enforcement.  Incidents involving Tribal Members over the course of this year have been looked into by myself and several others but as long as they are not breaking the law then there is nothing anybody can do.

If somebody saw them hunting down there, took pictures, video taped it or found gut piles and could prove those are the Tribal kills, I would be more than happy to assist with turning over evidence to Law Enforcement, I've said it before and I've said it again.

I know for a fact that I confirmed just recently that the same boy that killed Mr. Mass and is seen in a picture holding the rack is 1 of 3 Tribal Members that BONE seen entering Yakima on 1st street back in early summer with a possible 400" bull in velvet in the back of a red chevy truck.  I've confirmed that for sure but, again didn't break any laws so they couldn't be prosecuted.
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2011, 12:39:56 PM »
Every year we get indian bashing threads , Every group has bad seeds , I've seen trucks up in the woods late at night spotlighting that wern't indians , plat i'm glad your working for the right side on this one Thank you .

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2011, 12:47:15 PM »
Lets face it they have been here since the beging of time and hunting privleges and small pieces of land is a small price to pay for all the damage that has been done.  Also all the tribal people I know care more about the evironment and wildlife than most others.  Not trying to start a war but it is not right to single out a single race.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2011, 01:05:26 PM »
Lets face it they have been here since the beging of time and hunting privleges and small pieces of land is a small price to pay for all the damage that has been done.  Also all the tribal people I know care more about the evironment and wildlife than most others.  Not trying to start a war but it is not right to single out a single race.

So its ok to be racist, and allow a diffrent race do what they please, but others are not allowed?
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2011, 01:42:39 PM »
Who conquers someone then gives them more rights then themselves....

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2011, 01:48:34 PM »
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Lets face it they have been here since the beging of time and hunting privleges and small pieces of land is a small price to pay for all the damage that has been done.

Do you really think if the Europeans hadn't come over here when they did, and settled on this continent, that the native people would still be living today just as they did 500 years ago? If we didn't do it, somebody else would have. Come on, be realistic. Besides I don't believe that they got their land taken from them, as they never owned it in the first place. They were just temporarily camping out on it.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2011, 01:50:24 PM »
I could see this on the reservation:  Dude, I got a deer today!........Only one???  You're a loser!!
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2011, 02:03:31 PM »
I've spent a lot of time throughout my life on and around the Colville Reservation and I have never once seen "a truck with 6 or 8 does and little bucks piled in the back of a tribal member's truck".... I guess it sounds better to exaggerate the truth. Anyway, the deer are doing as well in Ferry County as they are in the rest of the state. People just want something to complain about as to why they don't see any deer so obviously, it must be the tribes fault.
It is absolutely not an "exaggeration"!  I as well as many of my cousins and my hunting buddy (who happens to live on a forrest service road near the rez line in Republic) have all seen it with our own eyes on several occasions. A couple friends of our who own orchards in Chelan have told us about the Colvilles showing up to their farms with deer stacked like cord wood in the back looking to sell them to his workers.  It is not just some isolated incident or "exaggerated truth".  The declining deer population in some areas is NOT solely because of the tribes, there are a ton of other factors, non tribal poaching, predators, weather etc, but the tribes are a contributor to the problem.

I used this pic from a buddy of mine and I would appreciate it if he keep quiet for a bit and some of you older members might have seen this before. Just wanted to know what you guys thought about a good morning hunt? 

 


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