That's not a rag horn for toutle, I basically live in that unit as much as I'm up there. The bulls in general are not very impressive in Toutle or Margaret for that matter. It's just a guarantee filled tag unit, not a trophy unit. If you see that stud up there I wouldn't hesitate. I seen well over a hundred different bulls wintering in the loo-wit valley this year and have a lot of there sheds, but seen maybe two bigger than that guy. Good find.