Drove 180 miles to the toutle unit which was closed due to fire danger

[briancorneal]

I even called the St. Helens treefarm hotline before I left.  So here I am at home with no elk, all tags intact, and 360 miles worth of gas spent.  Weyerhauser, I strongly dislike you right now.  You better be open next week!

[bobcat]

I even called the St. Helens treefarm hotline before I left.  So here I am at home with no elk, all tags intact, and 360 miles worth of gas spent.  Weyerhauser, I strongly dislike you right now.  You better be open next week!

When did you call the hotline? They updated it on Thursday the 8th, and it said that the tree farm was closed to all hunting. You must have called on Wednesday?

[shorthair15]

call the hotline they update it regularly. it wont be open any time soon until we get some rain. that may not be until october the way the weather is right now. the dnr land is still open that is a option.

[Bigfoot_44]

I would be pisses. Thats a ton of gas and money!!

[bobcat]

Yes, I would probably be mad at myself as well, for not calling first to find out if it was open.

[boneaddict]

Its nasty dry out there right now, and this week is really zapping the snowpack and springs in the high country.  I can see why they closed it.

[carpsniperg2]

In 09 I drove to rimrock to start scouting only to get there to find closed roads. That sucked! The fire was a long way away from the area I was going to be in, but I understand them not wanting people back in there.

[Crunchy]

State land in Toutle is open??

[Bigshooter]

State land in Toutle is open??

Private timber land is the only thing closed.  NF and State land is open.

[bobcat]

State land in Toutle is open??

Sure it's open, but you can't get to it. Unless you have a helicopter drop you off.

[Bigshooter]

Timber compaines are not suppose to be able to block off state land.

[briancorneal]

I went ahead and called, and coulda sworn they said it was open.  Maybe I heard what I wanted to hear.

[bigtex]

Timber compaines are not suppose to be able to block off state land.

There is a ton of landlocked (no access) state land in this state, mainly DNR land. People need to remember that DNR land is not solely for recreation, but to generate revenue (mainly in timber).

[Bigshooter]

Timber compaines are not suppose to be able to block off state land.

There is a ton of landlocked (no access) state land in this state, mainly DNR land. People need to remember that DNR land is not solely for recreation, but to generate revenue (mainly in timber).

I talked to A lady that was working for DNR a couple years ago and she told me that if there is state land, that any private timber company has to give access through there land to the state land.  Road access.  You can't cut through land that is closed unless its a road.

[bobcat]

Timber compaines are not suppose to be able to block off state land.

There is a ton of landlocked (no access) state land in this state, mainly DNR land. People need to remember that DNR land is not solely for recreation, but to generate revenue (mainly in timber).

I talked to A lady that was working for DNR a couple years ago and she told me that if there is state land, that any private timber company has to give access through there land to the state land.  Road access.  You can't cut through land that is closed unless its a road.

That's not true. Especially for recreational access. The DNR generally always gets right of way through private timber company lands, for purposes of timber harvest and other land management activities. The right of ways through private land are not necessarily open for the public for recreational access. I know of lots of DNR land in this area that does not have any public access. And there are even more areas in which the only access is through private land such as Weyerhaeuser, and if Weyerhaeuser is not allowing recreational access on their land, then you simply cannot hunt the state land. (unless you have a way to fly in to it)