What is wrong with people!

[bobcat]

I sure hope not.  It would be aweful sad for someone to get killed and for someone else to go to prison over a cooler of food.

 
Well, unfortunately, that's what's going to happen, with this type of crime becoming more and more common. And I doubt a person protecting their property would be going to prison. It's just like if someone comes into your home at night while you're asleep, and you end up killing them. You have a right to self defense whether it's in your permanent home, or a temporary home (camp).

[Helix]

sonds like a good reason to conceal a game camera where your vehicle is parked or camp so you can at least catch evidence of the perps.   

[WSU]

I sure hope not.  It would be aweful sad for someone to get killed and for someone else to go to prison over a cooler of food.

 
Well, unfortunately, that's what's going to happen, with this type of crime becoming more and more common. And I doubt a person protecting their property would be going to prison. It's just like if someone comes into your home at night while you're asleep, and you end up killing them. You have a right to self defense whether it's in your permanent home, or a temporary home (camp).

I can tell you the legal analysis is completely different if someone breaks into your home at night than it is if someone is stealing your cooler of food.  Not sure where you got your info but I'd be careful shooting someone for stealing your cooler.

[bobcat]

I can tell you the legal analysis is completely different if someone breaks into your home at night than it is if someone is stealing your cooler of food.  Not sure where you got your info but I'd be careful shooting someone for stealing your cooler.

I'm not thinking of someone simply stealing a cooler, but coming into someone's camp with the intent of stealing, and not knowing someone is in camp. So a guy comes out of the tent to see the lowlife's stealing his stuff, has a handgun on his belt, and the criminals are also armed. Guns are pulled and people get shot. You don't think that could happen? I do, and I'm pretty sure the innocent guy sleeping in the tent would not be charged with murder for protecting his life.

[Helix]

 

I can tell you the legal analysis is completely different if someone breaks into your home at night than it is if someone is stealing your cooler of food.  Not sure where you got your info but I'd be careful shooting someone for stealing your cooler.

there have been a number of legal cases in WA where a home owner has shot a person breaking into their car and been charged with assult, manslaughter and maybe worse.  One such incident the home owner shot the car prowler through the arm with a compound bow.  He was convicted of assult with a deadly weapon if my memory serves.  Castle doctrine does not apply unless they are breaking your occupied residence.  Read that your tent or camper if you are out on a hunt.

[LincolnTWilliams]

Man, is it always this bad? I've read probably half a dozen really crappy stories this year about people getting animals stolen/taken from them, vehicles getting broke into, fights, this, and all around A-hole-ishness going on in the mountains. It's like a damn free for all out there!

[gotcha]

The trailers were parked up on the ridge right above there camp. 

[Curly]

I sure won't shed a tear when some dirtbag thief or vandal gets his a$$ shot while he's out perpetrating these crimes.....and I hope the victim doesn't get in too much trouble.

[demontang]

The last year I did archery all the camps around us where getting hit. generators, axe's, chain saw and all sorts of stuff we never got hit probly cause we always had someone in camp and we where hidden off the road a bit. this happens in every hunting season theres just more people out so its just a # game.

[Biggerhammer]

Sounds like wild, wild west justice. Maybe these ATV's were where they weren't supposed to be. While I don't agree with that type of behavior. The thought of just the same has crossed my mind. Just a thought, I have no idea about any of the circumstances surrounding the vandalism.

[kckrawler]

After reading some posts on here, I'm not suprised at all 

Everytime the topic of quads and ATV's come up on this forum, there's at least 1 person who threaten to slash tires, roll them off cliffs, shoot the engine out, pull oil plugs, blah, blah, blah...do a search and see what some fine folks have to say about quads. Maybe one of your fellow hunting-washington.com members is to blame 

[gotcha]

They are allowed there.  guess i should have not posted.  Just trying to find out if someone saw something.  Did not mean to turn this into pointing fingers at anyone.  This was wrong in any circumstance.  Quad riding area or not.  new camping spot or not.  Where is the world coming to when all we do is point fingers or accuse others.  We should be teaching the youth and enjoying the outdoors not having to worry about if someone is going to steal or disturb our hard earned things. sorry

[kckrawler]

They are allowed there.  guess i should have not posted.  Just trying to find out if someone saw something.  Did not mean to turn this into pointing fingers at anyone.  This was wrong in any circumstance.  Quad riding area or not.  new camping spot or not.  Where is the world coming to when all we do is point fingers or accuse others.  We should be teaching the youth and enjoying the outdoors not having to worry about if someone is going to steal or disturb our hard earned things. sorry

Just having fun...

From what I can tell, most people on here would stop the a-holes from doing what they did. They wouldn't have gotten very far if somebody on here caught them in the act.

[LincolnTWilliams]

Sounds like wild, wild west justice. Maybe these ATV's were where they weren't supposed to be. While I don't agree with that type of behavior. The thought of just the same has crossed my mind. Just a thought, I have no idea about any of the circumstances surrounding the vandalism.

Sounds like they were on a trailer. No law against that!

 

They are allowed there.  guess i should have not posted.  Just trying to find out if someone saw something.  Did not mean to turn this into pointing fingers at anyone.  This was wrong in any circumstance.  Quad riding area or not.  new camping spot or not.  Where is the world coming to when all we do is point fingers or accuse others.  We should be teaching the youth and enjoying the outdoors not having to worry about if someone is going to steal or disturb our hard earned things. sorry

And yes you should have posted here. People need to know that there are creeps out there ready to destroy your property. It's crap!

[Smack]

Jerks like this need to be made to pay, make examples of these low lifes, make them wish they were dead, i cannot abide a thief, vandall all they are is a bunch of cowards. to bad for your family but its the price you pay hunting in the patch.