anyone open conceal

[MikeWalking]

did some cruising around the net and found this.

http://opencarry.org/WA.HTML   I was surprised to read the Training Bulletins for the King Co. Sheriffs dept.

[thefirefighter]

First off i would not OC in Seattle due to the fact that 90% of Seattle is liberals who have a fear of firearms, hunting, outdoor activities and anything that could "jeopardise our environment" so i would cc there.  But in and around my local area which is somewhat urban and somewhat rural depending on where you are hell yes i will open carry its 100% legal in speaking with multiple deputies in the king county area they said that the only way i would get in trouble is if i threatend someone or was going for my weapon but just alone on my hip means nothing, it means someone will probably call 911 but its legal so nothing will come of it.  I also believe if people were more educated on the subject and realize that not just police and criminals carry guns it would be more accepted but people just view guns as a "bad thing" but in reality its the people that are bad not the guns.  I am a very responsible owner and i agree with whoever made the comment on retention holders that is the only way to carry if you open conceal because you would be stupid not to.  I often wonder would a criminal commit a crime if he saw a gun or not?  I sure as hell know i would think twice if i saw a gun before i just mugged some guy or girl but hey criminals are dumb and if they want to try me i say go ahead.  But my whole reason for this is education i don't always need to open carry but i know for instance if I'm heading up to the mountains or east i open carry everywhere because its going to end up on my hip once i get up there so why not carry it the way you will up there.  But everyones entitled to there opinion i just think people need to be more open minded and educate your self on the laws more before you start bashing peoples rights!

[jeff100]

Yes, open carry IS legal everywhere it's legal to carry a gun in the state of WA.  Most of the time these days, I carry everywhere I go.  I've been carrying a concealed weapon for approx. 28 years.  In the last two years, I've gotten serious about training and taken some excellent professional defensive (combat) handgun training that is available locally.  It's basically the same training the police get.  I carry open in the field, but never in town.  The reason is simple.  I carry in urban areas for self defense.  Self defense against a violent criminal element.  IF you are carrying open, all the scumbags who may be bent on committing a violent act, will know you are carrying, and may target you because you represent a threat to them and their plans.  Guess who they're gonna take out first, if they're planning on or committing a crime and you happen along carrying open?  It's also my opinion, that most people without formal training, will most likely either not use their gun, or have their gun taken away IF confronted by a REAL bad guy.  I did not have this opinion until after I had received my training and became aware of just how unprepared I really was (mentally) to use a firearm for self defense outside my home, prior to my training.  Not only do you need the skill with the weapon, but you must have the mental mindset to take the fight to the enemy when least expecting a confrontation that constitutes a life threatening act.  So, in town, I carry concealed.  Always.  Not to keep from offending anyone, but to protect myself.  I practice shooting from a concealed carry as well.  Every week.  In the field it's different, and I carry open most of the time UNLESS I know I will be in an area that contains a lot of people.  Personally, I think everyone who is responsible should exercise their 2nd amendment right, and get the necessary training to be effective exercising that right.  After all, an armed society, is a polite society.

Happy trails...Jeff

[scudmaster]

Yes, open carry IS legal everywhere it's legal to carry a gun in the state of WA.  Most of the time these days, I carry everywhere I go.  I've been carrying a concealed weapon for approx. 28 years.  In the last two years, I've gotten serious about training and taken some excellent professional defensive (combat) handgun training that is available locally.  It's basically the same training the police get.  I carry open in the field, but never in town.  The reason is simple.  I carry in urban areas for self defense.  Self defense against a violent criminal element.  IF you are carrying open, all the scumbags who may be bent on committing a violent act, will know you are carrying, and may target you because you represent a threat to them and their plans.  Guess who they're gonna take out first, if they're planning on or committing a crime and you happen along carrying open?  It's also my opinion, that most people without formal training, will most likely either not use their gun, or have their gun taken away IF confronted by a REAL bad guy.  I did not have this opinion until after I had received my training and became aware of just how unprepared I really was (mentally) to use a firearm for self defense outside my home, prior to my training.  Not only do you need the skill with the weapon, but you must have the mental mindset to take the fight to the enemy when least expecting a confrontation that constitutes a life threatening act.  So, in town, I carry concealed.  Always.  Not to keep from offending anyone, but to protect myself.  I practice shooting from a concealed carry as well.  Every week.  In the field it's different, and I carry open most of the time UNLESS I know I will be in an area that contains a lot of people.  Personally, I think everyone who is responsible should exercise their 2nd amendment right, and get the necessary training to be effective exercising that right.  After all, an armed society, is a polite society.

Happy trails...Jeff

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[Bean Counter]

Hi group. My second post here. 

I used to open carry a semi-auto in addition to my rifle.  The reasoning was something to the effect of having something I could draw easily if ambushed by a wolf pack or jumped from behind by a cougar.  I may continue the practice when hunting in those areas but in areas where I"m not likely to encounter those two I think I'll be doing less and less of that.  Just too much weight IMHO. 

Incidentally, the one time I was ever paid a visit by 2x WDFW Enforcement officers was when I was open carrying.  They saw it and paid no mention of it.  They were interested in verifying the legality of my hunting rifle, gave me a map of the area, and were on their way.  Amazing how everyone is much more courteous when there are lots of guns going around.

[MikeWalking]

First off i would not OC in Seattle due to the fact that 90% of Seattle is liberals who have a fear of firearms, hunting, outdoor activities and anything that could "jeopardise our environment" so i would cc there

I have seen people OC in Seattle, and no one seemed to mind. I did see some eye brows raised about one guy. His Revolver hanging well below his jacket on a cheap belt. ( It might have been the 25lbs of Bananas he was carrying or his filthy appearance?) But no one said anything.  With Gang problems on the rise again I'd worry more about some punk pos seeing it as some kind of challenge. And forcing some kind of reaction.

I liked this city much better 30 years ago.

[jeff100]

With Gang problems on the rise again I'd worry more about some punk pos seeing it as some kind of challenge. And forcing some kind of reaction.

I liked this city much better 30 years ago.

Exactly my point.  Some gangsta wannabe could see yer weapon and decide to shoot you.  Then five of his buddies will swear to the police that YOU threatened HIM and he had to defend himself.  The shooter's mother will claim he's a good kid who's been victimized by the man.  The NAACP will cry racism and threaten a lawsuit.  You're dead, it's no contest.  Last man standing.  Unless the kid is a felon in possession, he's probably gonna walk.

A few years ago up on 99 a few miles south of Seattle, I stopped at a small grocery store to buy something to drink.  It was noon thirty something, middle of the day.  A group of about 6 black kids were hanging out in the parking lot.  We made eye contact as I walked thru the parking lot and they immediately came after me.  With them trailing about 50 feet behind me and closing fast, I ducked into the store, walked straight thru the store to the back into the employee area and out through a door out the back of the store, circled around and hauled ass out'a there.

Now don't call me a racist, these kids could'a just as easily been white trash, whatever.  The point is you never know, when things are gonna get dangerous....and that's not the time to be exercising your right to show everyone you're carrying...

And yeah, I've been here since 1967.  IMO Seattle was a hell of a lot better town before the girls and geldings took it over...

[MountainWalk]

Im all for it, but do it responsibly. The other day at the Wal-Mart, some youngish guys was walking around with a sig sauer or something in a shoulder holster with no jacket or anything. Damn things was flapping and generally didnt look like the kid had complete control of his piece. Anyone with a little cunning and speed could have jerked that damn thing away from him.

[sisu]

With Gang problems on the rise again I'd worry more about some punk pos seeing it as some kind of challenge. And forcing some kind of reaction.

I liked this city much better 30 years ago.

Exactly my point.  Some gangsta wannabe could see yer weapon and decide to shoot you.  Then five of his buddies will swear to the police that YOU threatened HIM and he had to defend himself.  The shooter's mother will claim he's a good kid who's been victimized by the man.  The NAACP will cry racism and threaten a lawsuit.  You're dead, it's no contest.  Last man standing.  Unless the kid is a felon in possession, he's probably gonna walk.

A few years ago up on 99 a few miles south of Seattle, I stopped at a small grocery store to buy something to drink.  It was noon thirty something, middle of the day.  A group of about 6 black kids were hanging out in the parking lot.  We made eye contact as I walked thru the parking lot and they immediately came after me.  With them trailing about 50 feet behind me and closing fast, I ducked into the store, walked straight thru the store to the back into the employee area and out through a door out the back of the store, circled around and hauled ass out'a there.

Now don't call me a racist, these kids could'a just as easily been white trash, whatever.  The point is you never know, when things are gonna get dangerous....and that's not the time to be exercising your right to show everyone you're carrying...

And yeah, I've been here since 1967.  IMO Seattle was a hell of a lot better town before the girls and geldings took it over...

Yep, that is one of the reasons I don't live there any longer.

I was in Mountain View one evening in Anchorage. I had my Rott with me and my fishing shotgun in the front seat. I stopped to get some gasoline but apparently while I was looking at the pumps I attracted some attention from two punks. They started strolling toward me, so I gave Kuba her watch command and I walked to the passenger door and pulled the shotgun out but not at them. They looked and turned 180 degrees waling back to where they came from. Kuba was watching the two with interest, but she did not make a sound only steady watchful eyes. Rotts are the best damn dog I've ever owned for protecting the family. My lab is good but those damn Rotts can put the scare of Jesus in most people especially when they give off their werewolf growl.

[jdb]

I carry open sometimes when I am fishing one of bthe local rivers or creeks, anytime I will be in snake country but I take the holster off if I am entering any businesses.

[Jekemi]

Well, as you know, it is not legal in Seattle. Our illustrious mayor has taken it upon himself to unilaterally declare open display or concealed handguns illegal within the city limits. This is in clear violation of the 2nd Amendment. The recent DC decision might give him pause but I doubt it. This law is also in violation of State laws but who is Olympia, with the governing crowd we have down there will challenge the mayor on this one. I'm with Uncle Ted: "The 2nd Amendment is my concealed weapons permit."

[CP]

The major would like to have such power, but he does not.  Seattle’s laws are no different than any other part of WA. 

[jeff100]

 

[popeshawnpaul]

I represented a guy for open conceal years and years ago.  I can't remember where, but if I recall correctly it was a municipal code that controlled in that case.  I think the RCW's are silent to the issue. 

Shawn

[MikeWalking]

Well, as you know, it is not legal in Seattle. Our illustrious mayor has taken it upon himself to unilaterally declare open display or concealed handguns illegal within the city limits. This is in clear violation of the 2nd Amendment. The recent DC decision might give him pause but I doubt it. This law is also in violation of State laws but who is Olympia, with the governing crowd we have down there will challenge the mayor on this one. I'm with Uncle Ted: "The 2nd Amendment is my concealed weapons permit."

The State prohibits Cities and Counties from making any Gun Law stricter than State law. All the Mayor (Emperor Nickels the Pink) did, so far, is order staff to draft an ordinance baning guns on City property.

Geesh, when's his term gonna be over already?