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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 04:50:40 PM »
40rds?? You can't have any confidence in your shooting ability. Wow. Thats a lot weight right there.

It was more incase I got lost or something else bad happened.
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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2012, 04:51:11 PM »
what caliber do you shoot? could be a money maker in that area  :chuckle: just hang some signs  " AMMO ---->" :chuckle:
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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 05:19:06 PM »
The first year I hiked into areas in the dark and left after dark.  I carried a bare frame pack with some rope, hatchet, knife, gps, camelbak, compass, map, first aid kit, rifle, 40 rounds and a jacket.

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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 05:27:38 PM »
Okay I guess I don't need that many, but figure I should have extra just in case.  They are only little .308 win so didn't think they weighed that much.  Its only two little boxes.  I would rather have too many, than not enough.
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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2012, 07:29:06 AM »
horses wall tent woodstove food beer!!!

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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2012, 07:34:32 AM »
horses wall tent woodstove food beer!!!
I used to hunt with a guy that had your same list but his order of importance was reversed.
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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2012, 07:35:19 AM »
horses wall tent woodstove food beer!!!

One year we were camping about 12-13 miles back and found three Busch lights.  We figured they were left by bear hunters.  We drank them on like our 6th day when our spirits were low.  BEST BEERS I HAVE EVER HAD!

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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2012, 11:04:29 AM »
I've never found full beers, but I've found half melted cans in fire pits. I was always amazed folks were willing to pack them that far, and yet still too lazy to pack out the trash. But then I also find it ironic finding Power bar and Cliff bar wrapers along hiking trails.
Its way easier to pack a small platypus bag of your choice of spirit. More bang for the weight also.

Of the 4 deer we've taken on the High Buck, the younger ones boned out at 60 and the larger older ones were about 80 pounds. It would be a good idea to hunt 2 guys, planning on 1 deer.

Instead of PB and J you could do PB and Bacon for more calories.

As far as "food, water, tents, clothing, ect.."

Food: I take a bit over a pound a day of food looking for calories and some flavor/texture. You could go all freeze dried and be light, but it would suck. Food is great comfort and can keep spirits up when weather is bad.  Example: A roll of bagels, ziplock of almond butter, couple packs of tuna sandwich spread, Mt house meal per diner, few packs of Idahoan instant spuds, several Cliff bars per day, a big bag of trail mix, jerky, gel energy shots, crystal light or other drink mixes, bag of dried fruit, several of the mustard and mayo pouches from the deli, small bottle of olive oil, small shaker of pepper spice blend, ect... I devide all my stuff into per day portions. It helps keep me on schedule with calorie intake. I cook my stuff with the Jetboil titanium. I used the standard Jetboil for years also.

Water: I carry a filter, a big (few gallon) Platypus bag, 1 2 liter pouch, 1, 1.8 liter blader, and a small ~ 20 oz pouch for mixed drinks. Depending on where I know water is I might go in with more or less water. I always have the bladder full ( I drink it each day) and may carry and extra liter in the 2 liter pouch for cooking dinner/breakfast. I use the big bag and 2 liter pouch for transporting water from the source to camp. This allows me to do a few days between water runs if camp isnt neer water.

Tents: We use the Mega-light, or the TiGoat 6 man TP. Basicaly you need light weight, with room for gear and cooking when your socked in with sleet and rain. I also carry a UL bivey and tarp as part of my day/spike/emergency gear.

Clothing: I use the Kuiu attack pants, or Sitka ascent pants, a marino base layer, fleece mid layer jacket, primaloft puff jacket, and a water proof shell top and bottom. I bring 2 base tops, several pairs of socks and skivies, wool gloves, beanie, gaitors, stiff waterproof hiking boots, ect. The weather will swing from freezing at night to 70 and sunny mid afternoon with some rain, snow, and sleet thrown in for good measure. You need enough to be warm and dry sitting stationary while glassing in a snow flurry, but also need to be able to strip down to a T-shirt and pants for hot hiking.

Sleeping: I use a Neo air pad, 40° synthetic bag, Sea to summit bag liner, and UL bivey. I can use it all for below freezing stuff or leave out the bivey or liner for warmer stuff.

I dont take any cotton or down. Stuff gets wet and its hard to dry on a mountain at tree line in September. I always have rain gear top and bottom. I've never yet made a high hunt without rain. I dont wear an insulating bottom layer. Pants and rain pants are all I've ever needed, YMMV. Gaitors are a must for me. The brush is always soaked with dew in the mornings or rain. Waterproof boots are a must. Wet frozen boots in the morning suck.

Bring a few LED head lamps and batteries. The new super bright ones are nice for finding trails and your way in the dark. First aid kit, fire starting stuff, GPS, locator beacon, cell phone, hygene gear, knife, 550 cord, game bags, bino's, spotter ect.................

Seems my pack is always right around 50 pounds going in, often 80+ on the way out. Get in shape, it makes the trip much more fun when its not a death march.
   


 

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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2012, 11:44:52 AM »
I've never found full beers, but I've found half melted cans in fire pits. I was always amazed folks were willing to pack them that far, and yet still too lazy to pack out the trash. But then I also find it ironic finding Power bar and Cliff bar wrapers along hiking trails.
Its way easier to pack a small platypus bag of your choice of spirit. More bang for the weight also.

Of the 4 deer we've taken on the High Buck, the younger ones boned out at 60 and the larger older ones were about 80 pounds. It would be a good idea to hunt 2 guys, planning on 1 deer.

Instead of PB and J you could do PB and Bacon for more calories.

As far as "food, water, tents, clothing, ect.."

Food: I take a bit over a pound a day of food looking for calories and some flavor/texture. You could go all freeze dried and be light, but it would suck. Food is great comfort and can keep spirits up when weather is bad.  Example: A roll of bagels, ziplock of almond butter, couple packs of tuna sandwich spread, Mt house meal per diner, few packs of Idahoan instant spuds, several Cliff bars per day, a big bag of trail mix, jerky, gel energy shots, crystal light or other drink mixes, bag of dried fruit, several of the mustard and mayo pouches from the deli, small bottle of olive oil, small shaker of pepper spice blend, ect... I devide all my stuff into per day portions. It helps keep me on schedule with calorie intake. I cook my stuff with the Jetboil titanium. I used the standard Jetboil for years also.

Water: I carry a filter, a big (few gallon) Platypus bag, 1 2 liter pouch, 1, 1.8 liter blader, and a small ~ 20 oz pouch for mixed drinks. Depending on where I know water is I might go in with more or less water. I always have the bladder full ( I drink it each day) and may carry and extra liter in the 2 liter pouch for cooking dinner/breakfast. I use the big bag and 2 liter pouch for transporting water from the source to camp. This allows me to do a few days between water runs if camp isnt neer water.

Tents: We use the Mega-light, or the TiGoat 6 man TP. Basicaly you need light weight, with room for gear and cooking when your socked in with sleet and rain. I also carry a UL bivey and tarp as part of my day/spike/emergency gear.

Clothing: I use the Kuiu attack pants, or Sitka ascent pants, a marino base layer, fleece mid layer jacket, primaloft puff jacket, and a water proof shell top and bottom. I bring 2 base tops, several pairs of socks and skivies, wool gloves, beanie, gaitors, stiff waterproof hiking boots, ect. The weather will swing from freezing at night to 70 and sunny mid afternoon with some rain, snow, and sleet thrown in for good measure. You need enough to be warm and dry sitting stationary while glassing in a snow flurry, but also need to be able to strip down to a T-shirt and pants for hot hiking.

Sleeping: I use a Neo air pad, 40° synthetic bag, Sea to summit bag liner, and UL bivey. I can use it all for below freezing stuff or leave out the bivey or liner for warmer stuff.

I dont take any cotton or down. Stuff gets wet and its hard to dry on a mountain at tree line in September. I always have rain gear top and bottom. I've never yet made a high hunt without rain. I dont wear an insulating bottom layer. Pants and rain pants are all I've ever needed, YMMV. Gaitors are a must for me. The brush is always soaked with dew in the mornings or rain. Waterproof boots are a must. Wet frozen boots in the morning suck.

Bring a few LED head lamps and batteries. The new super bright ones are nice for finding trails and your way in the dark. First aid kit, fire starting stuff, GPS, locator beacon, cell phone, hygene gear, knife, 550 cord, game bags, bino's, spotter ect.................

Seems my pack is always right around 50 pounds going in, often 80+ on the way out. Get in shape, it makes the trip much more fun when its not a death march.
   


 

Do you use the floor with your mega-light?  Have you had it in high winds? snow? heavy rain?

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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2012, 12:16:55 PM »
Lots of good info guys :tup:

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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2012, 12:39:49 PM »
I've never gone on a high hunt myself, but I'm sure it goes without saying, make sure people know where you SPECIFICALLY plan on going so in the event of an emergency you can be rescued.  Saw someone mention a locator beacon as well.  I would love to someday do a high hunt, but I know I am nowhere close to being fit enough now to make it happen anytime soon.  Good luck on your hunt!

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2012, 12:43:50 PM »
Do you use the floor with your mega-light?  Have you had it in high winds? snow? heavy rain?


I own the floor, used it one time. Usualy just carry a piece of Tyvek or similar to toss under the air mattres. No need for a full floor. Had it in maybe 60 MPH or so weather. I dont purposely set it out where it will get the full brunt of the wind, but sometimes your limited by flat spots. We have guy out loops sewn into the seams at mid point on the side panels. TiGoat will do it, or you could do it yourself. They take the wind, snow and rain amazingly well. We've slept 3 before, but really its a 2 man tent.

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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2012, 07:47:18 PM »
HOLY CRAP! that is alot of realy good info. alot of stuff that i did not think of. we may take the next 2 sumers to get prepared.  there will be 2 of us and i am hopeing to go for 4 or 5 days and want to get whare people are not, 5,8,10 miles, whatever it takes. we are going to make many trips to scout the areas. we are in for the REAL DEAL not half ass so thanks for all your help. i owe you all a beer. :tup:
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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2012, 09:22:32 PM »
Waiting for Boneaddict to respond.  I worship the knowledge and content he brings to this topic.  Search the topics on this and youll see what I mean.
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Re: high buck hunters! please help!
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2012, 09:46:40 PM »
I run the megalight also. I like my western mountaineering bag a million times more than anything else i have used. I took my boat up lake and hiked into __________ basin. Anyone who tells you it is not too bad, must be in Cameron haines type of shape.....its all up. I have hauled many deer out in a backpack. I go in about #42 with water and ammo and all my gear of course and come out about #45-55 heavier after I remove every ounce of trim on a buck. Get trekking poles. Forget the floor. Use mtn house meals and after you eat them, use them to carry water.....you have to carry them anyhow, why pack a bladder too? Start the climb from the lake with a lot of water.....you will hate life if you get to a creek and its dry. Once you get around 4500 feet water is plentiful.....for a while. Make some trial runs and lose everything you don't use. You don't need more than 10 rounds of ammo. If you cant kill a buck and protect yourself with that, you may want to stay out of big people country. Be careful! You are your own rescue team. Don't do stupid things.

 


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