which is better? in person or on the phone

[shocking300]

I have not had any luck lately getting permission to hunt coyotes on any farmers land that i asked, may be i am asking wrong, so is it better to ask  in person or on the phone?

[bear hunter]

In person and not during the season go before the season it helps. I called a guy that has some good hunting on the islands. I never herd back from him. 2 year I tried to get a hold of him. This year I was done hunting early. So I went in to town and found him and he said yes and signed the sheriffs form for me. VERY COOL guy, but I've had some bad problem asking farmers too. One old farmer I asked just looked at me. I ask him if I could hunt coyotes down the road on his land. Not one word he just looked at me. I asked again and the same respoise. Finlay his wife says we don't like hunter on are land so leave. I said thanks and have a nice day. :dunno:The same thing happened on the island also the man was very nice,but right when I asked him. The guy went nuts :dunno:Crazy hippies. I think in person if possible. Calling maybe to meet up with them for cafe or breakfest would help. GOOD LUCK

[Brownie28]

you dont have to take them to lunch but as with everyone when you ask if they are busy or working offer to give them a hand while you ask. a phone call is just like an application, although EVERYTHING checks out on papeer you never really get to see or judge a person until you meet them face to face. show up get to the point be polite and if they turn you down thank them for your time and move on. if written permission is required make sure you have the form with you to make the process as quick and painless as possible. not everyones gonna let you regardless of how or when you ask. so be prepared to hear NO and bring some dog treats as every farm/ranch has dogs. and usually a treat will either distract them long enough to let you find someone or might be ebough to let em know your friendly

[Special T]

Couple of other posts on this topic
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=82777.msg1028883#msg1028883

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=75567.msg923820#msg923820

Should help 

[Hayfmr]

As a farmer I feel qualified to answer this one.  I get asked a lot for goose hunting permission.  I prefer in person the first time unless I already know you, then a phone call is fine.  I have never given written permission, only verbal.  Never heard of written being required.  Don't bother asking me about coyote hunting because I am going to shoot them myself.  Your more than welcome to hunt anything else though.

[222Rem]

WHAT A GREAT QUSETION!! LETS HERE SOME OPINIONS BY SOME SEASONED COYOTE HUNTERS.

[nwwanderer]

Tough question.  Farmers are not a cooperative group generally speaking.  Everyone is different.  Do they have livestock?  Crop farm only?  What are pelts worth?  Do they hunt?  Do they own or rent the land they produce on?  How old are you?  How old are they?  What kind of run ins have they had with agencies lately?  Are they making money?  Do you appear safe and responsible?  Who makes decisions for this farm?  What is the local wildlife population and mix?  Are predators costing them money or making them money?  That is a few questions.  You are going to have to know the situation and act accordingly.  You are not going to get permission on mine unless I am with you. Until I am comfortable with your skills and personality it is just to big a risk to turn you loose.

[shocking300]

Well i thank you all who chimed in .  I called few farmers and stop by and talked to few, on the phone i got a quick no and they hang up the phone, in person i was told "we don't like hunters on our properties"  So the lesson is keep knocking and keep calling and might get lucky.  For the record, i NEVER show up in camo or with rifle over shoulder.

[Special T]

If its E Wa don't have on huskies gear or stickers on your truck!  Also the 3/4 ton diesel with aluminum rims and canopy screams wetsider..

[Bean Counter]

In person, of course. Ever heard of the Stanley Milgrim experiment? The closer and more personal the interaction, the more persuasive.

[222Rem]

I was going to ask a farmer in eastern washington this weekend and chickened out -Really not an easy task.  The good old boy Farmers that want all the coyotes dead are dying.