Down goes illuminated nocks!

[92xj]

Ha!  That would be amazingly funny and awesome to see you running around the woods with one!
If you ever get the chance, I will carry the flash for you.

[huntnphool]

I would KILL to have one of those.    Believe it or not, I picked up an AE-1 to play with.   Its almost hard to find film these days :chuckle:n   ESPECIALLY for the polaroid I just got.

i still have my black body A-1, can't bring myself to sell it, even though its now worth anything to anyone but me.

[Machias]

For-so I can find my arrows.

Against- not consistent with P&Y standards.

That's my take.

I obviously can't speak for all, but I am in favor for the reason of being able to identify if I may have missed where I was aiming. That way I know whether I can retrieve my animal or give it time to expire without pushing it.

Cloooooooose the distance and you can accomplish the exact same thing without adding electronics to your bow.  Remember archery is how close can I get not how far can I shoot. 

[turkeyfeather]

For-so I can find my arrows.

Against- not consistent with P&Y standards.

That's my take.

I obviously can't speak for all, but I am in favor for the reason of being able to identify if I may have missed where I was aiming. That way I know whether I can retrieve my animal or give it time to expire without pushing it.

Cloooooooose the distance and you can accomplish the exact same thing without adding electronics to your bow.  Remember archery is how close can I get not how far can I shoot. 

I am fully aware of what archery is all about. However even with perfect 20/20 vision and the sun shining arrows are still very hard to see with today's extremely fast bows. I will say it again cause it seems like some aren't listening. It has nothing to do with being able to make a further shot. Those that think that's what its about or those that think they can do that are simply clueless.

[Machias]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

[JLS]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

Couldn't have said it better.

[turkeyfeather]

Bone- I completely understand where your coming from. We are all passionate about our sport and the way we believe it should be. And I agree that for everyone there will come a time when you say enough is enough. And at that point you just simply choose not to progress further, but you don't have the right to tell others that want to they can't. (I am not saying you specifically just in general) I was taken back by your statement cause you came off to me that you were indicating that those that wanted these and didnt agree with you were stupid, ignorant's that didn't get it. I get it, I just don't agree. If that was not what you were trying to say then I read into it wrong and apologize. If that was what you were trying to say then maybe your the one that doesn't get it.

[huntnphool]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

Same old excuses. We all agree that we don't need them but nobody can explain why it should not be our choice.

[turkeyfeather]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

Did you even read what I said. I didn't say you were clueless, I said that idea that those that want to use a lighted nock to be able to shoot at unethical distances was clueless. I don't rifle hunt, but I do go with buddies that do. And a bullet causes alot more damage and trauma than a arrow. And I think you know that. There fore chances are your animal will bleed a lot more a lot faster and not go as far. Now that is not always the case, but is more often than not.

[Machias]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

Same old excuses. We all agree that we don't need them but nobody can explain why it should not be our choice.

Because collectively we all agree to draw a line somewhere, that we as a group do not want to cross.  We are just standing firm on that line while some folks (admittedly alot more lately) want to redraw the line.  Once we redraw that line, then the next group will stand at the line and say hey who are you to say I can do what I want..... 

[turkeyfeather]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

Same old excuses. We all agree that we don't need them but nobody can explain why it should not be our choice.

Because collectively we all agree to draw a line somewhere, that we as a group do not want to cross.  We are just standing firm on that line while some folks (admittedly alot more lately) want to redraw the line.  Once we redraw that line, then the next group will stand at the line and say hey who are you to say I can do what I want..... 

Why does where you think the line to be drawn have to mean thats where it should be for everyone? Again I will say if you don't like it and don't wanna use them then dont. But to say that nobody else can cause some don't is frankly a little arrogant.

[huntnphool]

Yep 34 years of bowhunting, totally clueless. 


TF do you rifle hunt?  Use tracer rounds?  How in the world do you know where you hit your animal or when to start recovery/tracking?  That's right you go to the spot where the animal was standing and you read sign.

Same old excuses. We all agree that we don't need them but nobody can explain why it should not be our choice.

Because collectively we all agree to draw a line somewhere, that we as a group do not want to cross.  We are just standing firm on that line while some folks (admittedly alot more lately) want to redraw the line.  Once we redraw that line, then the next group will stand at the line and say hey who are you to say I can do what I want..... 

I never agreed on where that line was, what gives you, example, the right to tell me where the line is drawn?

[JLS]

Because it affects all of us by potentially affecting season length.  I care more about my season length than someone being allowed to use lighted nocks.

If you can convince the commish they should be allowed, then fine.  I won't support it, however arrogant that may seem.  I've said it before, electronics on archery equipment is a slippery slope and I am perfectly fine operating within the Pope and Young constraints.

[turkeyfeather]

Because it affects all of us by potentially affecting season length.  I care more about my season length than someone being allowed to use lighted nocks.

If you can convince the commish they should be allowed, then fine.  I won't support it, however arrogant that may seem.  I've said it before, electronics on archery equipment is a slippery slope and I am perfectly fine operating within the Pope and Young constraints.

Good for you, that's great. I frankly don't really care about records. And you cannot make the argument that it affects the season length cause that hasn't happened yet.

[huntnphool]

Because it affects all of us by potentially affecting season length.

Thats BS and you know it. WDFW has NEVER changed seasons or threatened to change seasons in lieu of modernized equipment. Show me where this has happened or threatened by the use of lighted nocks and ill change my stance, until then your scare tactics are complete fear mongering rhetoric.