WDFW Poll

[Oneshot1Kill]

Whenever I think about our laws and such that annoy me here I always have a thought to other states such as California and other countries like Australia. We got it pretty darn nice. And having to spend more for tags and such is a good thing, more money going towards conservation. And has anyone else ever thought that it's the new hunters fault for the lack of game taken during a season. I'm sure a bunch on here are the true hunters that go and actually hunt but look at how many people have given into things like road hunting, out of state hunting for trophies, and poaching. And everyone that goes out of state or poaches just add on to the cost of tags than complain about it. Heck, I buy a tag every year even if I know I'm only gonna be able to go out once with my bow. By the way, I'm talking about people who go out of state than don't hunt here. I know some of you guys are the big time, hunt everywhere guys and that's cool too.

[Huntbear]

Dave, did you completely rewrite the article?  Or is this a follow up?  I was actually looking for the original article to show my brother.


Most of us, have way to many skeletons in our closet to run for any office... hell I know I do...   Would never put my family through that kind of unholy scrutiny....  If it was just me, and me alone, not an issue.   But since I sit on the conservative side of things, and am very pro hunter, how deep do you think the liberal media bashing would go?? 

however, I will send my thoughts and feelings to the WDFW every time I feel the need.  It may not be all professional every time, but I get my point across.  I would also support any experienced hunter we could find to get into said positions.  We need hunters back in office if we want this to come back to our favor.   It should also be a pre requisite for any office in the WDFW.

[Glockster]

Um how is hunting out of state equivalent to poaching in the cost of tags???

I go out of state because the opportunity is much better to bring home meat and see more deer than hunters.  I spend way more $$$ because the out of state experience is so much better than WA's.  I get more than my money's worth out of state so just like any consumer, that's where my $'s go.  Sorry if they have to raise the instate fees to compensate for my $'s going out of state.  Sorry the people who run things at WDFW see that as a solution to their budget woes.

Maybe I'm not a "true hunter" in your definition, but I have the freeedom to spend my $ where I want to and that ain't WA anymore for the most part.   

[buckfvr]

Whenever I think about our laws and such that annoy me here I always have a thought to other states such as California and other countries like Australia. We got it pretty darn nice. And having to spend more for tags and such is a good thing, more money going towards conservation. And has anyone else ever thought that it's the new hunters fault for the lack of game taken during a season. I'm sure a bunch on here are the true hunters that go and actually hunt but look at how many people have given into things like road hunting, out of state hunting for trophies, and poaching. And everyone that goes out of state or poaches just add on to the cost of tags than complain about it. Heck, I buy a tag every year even if I know I'm only gonna be able to go out once with my bow. By the way, I'm talking about people who go out of state than don't hunt here. I know some of you guys are the big time, hunt everywhere guys and that's cool too.

EIther you're on the young side, or not from this state......You havent apparently witnessed  the losses of the last 10, 20, and even 30 years......The rediculous, continous increases in fees.  The decline in our deer herds, and elk herds......the blatant management for special interest groups....the lieing and deceiving by management.  IMHO, you do not understand whats going on here in Wa., and where its going.......THEY WORK FOR US AND THEY DONT OWN THE ANIMALS.  Despite what they tell us.

[Oneshot1Kill]

Sorry for offending you glockster, but I was just relating it to poaching as a poacher doesn't buy tags in our state and neither does a hunter that goes out of state. Therefore that money doesn't go back into the state. And yeah I'm young but I've witnessed and heard about the cost of tags going up like none other. The first year I went turkey hunting the store owner gave me 50 cents to cover the cost of my tag. I think I paid in total for all tags 58 bucks. Now it'll be well in the $100 range. But that's because of inflation and more people not going hunting. Did you know that if you multiple the percentage of inflation on todays dollar to the dollar in the 40's it's still almost the same. Gas woulda been $3.50 a gallon then yet everyone says they wished they lived in the time to pay a quarter for a gallon of gas. Prices go up and until U.S. citizens remember that they are the true owners of the government we gotta keep paying what they tell us and look at the positive side.

[JimmyHoffa]

For the example of a poacher, the poacher may not put money into the state but is taking away from those that due.  Both in resource of animal, time from enforcement, image amongst the public, etc. 

[Glockster]

Sorry for offending you glockster, but I was just relating it to poaching as a poacher doesn't buy tags in our state and neither does a hunter that goes out of state. Therefore that money doesn't go back into the state. And yeah I'm young but I've witnessed and heard about the cost of tags going up like none other. The first year I went turkey hunting the store owner gave me 50 cents to cover the cost of my tag. I think I paid in total for all tags 58 bucks. Now it'll be well in the $100 range. But that's because of inflation and more people not going hunting. Did you know that if you multiple the percentage of inflation on todays dollar to the dollar in the 40's it's still almost the same. Gas woulda been $3.50 a gallon then yet everyone says they wished they lived in the time to pay a quarter for a gallon of gas. Prices go up and until U.S. citizens remember that they are the true owners of the government we gotta keep paying what they tell us and look at the positive side.

I kinda thought you were on the young side, so that explains some things and I'm not ever offended by good debate....that's America.   I suspect you have parent or parents who subsidize your life's expenses so inflation is just a concept to you for the most part at this point in your life.  Wait til you have a 60hr a week job, a bitchy wife, a mortgage, and two kids who you would like to take hunting with you.  Then you'll know.

Ask anyone who lived through the 70's about what life would be like today if that brand of inflation was allowed to continue.  Europe and California are a couple of scary glimpses into our future if the present path of "prices gotta go up" is allowed to continue. 

[JJD]

Quote; Europe and California are a couple of scary glimpses into our future if the present path of "prices gotta go up" is allowed to continue." Unquote

Well of course whole sale inflation is the future.  How else do you expect the liberals to catch up to 15 trillion (and growing) dollar debt? 

[Kain]

Prices going up to match inflation is one thing.  Prices going up while opportunity and quality are going down and the money being spent on less and less of what it was intended for is something completely different. 

[BOWHUNTER45]

I think we send this poll to Oly land !!! 

[Gringo31]

I've said before that WDFW is more into preservation than they are conservation.  Yesterday I read their mission statement and  .....seems I wasn't too far off.  Hunting and fishing is not the top of the list and they don't hide it.  Why are we surprised?

Mission and Goals

Our Mission

To preserve, protect and perpetuate fish, wildlife and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities. I think this part is backwards.  IF they were looking to provide SUSTAINABLE fishing and hunting, that would have to include protecting etc.

Vision

 Conservation of Washington’s fish and wildlife resources and ecosystems.

WDFW defines “Conservation” as:

 Protection, preservation, management, or restoration of natural environments and the ecological communities that inhabit them; including management of human use for public benefit and sustainable social and economic needs.
 (Adapted from The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005)
 
Department Goals

 To achieve its mission, WDFW will continue to focus its activities on the following four goals:
I.Conserve and protect native fish and wildlife


II.Provide sustainable fishing, hunting and other wildlife-related recreational experiences.


III.Use sound business practices, deliver high-quality customer service.LOL, just look at the poll...high quality customer service lol


IV.Maintain a highly skilled and motivated workforce.

[elkslayer069]

Minus one from the top and add one to the bottom sneezed and clicked wrong box.

[buckfvr]

Glancing at the poll data, I didnt realize we had 26 employees of WDFW on here.....

[Huntbear]

I think we send this poll to Oly land !!! 

I have already sent an email to the Director and the Commissioners with links to this poll, voicing my extreme displeasure about several issues....  Did that last week some time.

[Skyvalhunter]

The results definitely show how the WA hunter feels, no question about that