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Missing hounds north Idaho
« on: July 07, 2019, 08:45:43 PM »
Anybody?

Seen on the Facebook.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 08:46:09 PM »
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2019, 09:12:17 PM »
Good chance the owner got beat to his dogs. It's a common problem, hounds are like Olympic runners, they are skinny when in good condition and the average person happens along and thinks the dogs are starving and lost, so they pick them up and transport them out of the area before the owner can get to them to pick them up.

There could have been a split race and the owner was at a treed bear or rounding up his other dogs, or these dogs got split apart from other dogs for any of several reasons, these are all very common things that can happen when hunting dogs. So the dogs find a road looking for their owner and before he can get there someone picks them up. In the photo they don't look in bad condition to me. But at this point the owner needs to know where his dogs went so he can go get them. Hopefully everyone with contacts in Idaho will spread the word.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2019, 09:18:28 PM »
the post said the garmin GPS collars had dead batteries, how long do they typically last?

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2019, 09:24:51 PM »
 Depending on the setting 24-72 hours, idaho has a lot of repeat names but if this is the fish creek off highway 12 they either ended up there by accident or the guy is a complete idiot.  More wolves then you can shake a stick at and no roads.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2019, 09:32:18 PM »
Lots of IEP lands near CDA. If the owner didn't recharge before hunting the batteries might not have lasted very long, hard to second guess the situation?  :dunno:
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2019, 09:38:09 PM »
def hard to 2nd guess so I don't


thought I matched up those dogs with another lost hounds post from back in may also with dead GPS collars, turns out they were different hounds and those ones got back to the owners. 

hope these ones get back to their owners too, and hopefully the owners gets some ID tags with phone numbers on it.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2019, 09:43:28 PM »
I've had an ID tag pop off the ring on my dogs collar while hunting.  I double up now.  With a "plate ID" that slides over the collar (harder to get that one off), and another ID on the ring on the collar.   As well as chipped and ear tattoo as well.   

Hopefully these dogs make it back to their owner.   


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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2019, 09:47:34 PM »
Odd that neither dog had ID tags? You would think since they had garmin collars that they would have ID tags?
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 07:02:21 AM »
Odd that neither dog had ID tags? You would think since they had garmin collars that they would have ID tags?
That's what I thought too.  I shared it with a few buddies in that area. 

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 08:31:14 AM »
We stopped putting ID tags on our bird dogs collars.  I've never had them survive more than 1-2 hunts and I got tired of replacing them.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2019, 10:00:49 AM »
We stopped putting ID tags on our bird dogs collars.  I've never had them survive more than 1-2 hunts and I got tired of replacing them.

Get your collars/tags from a hound hunting supply, the name tags rivet to your collars (that will last). Tags usually outlast the collars, I sometimes drill out the rivets to put tags on new collars that don't have a tag.

These come with tags:

https://www.dusupply.com/pro-oring-collar.html

https://www.outdoordogsupply.com/product/1-1-2-super-heavy-duty-d-o-dog-collar-free-name-tag/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg570uOWl4wIVAdNkCh3pqgHPEAkYAiABEgLny_D_BwE
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2019, 10:18:44 AM »
We stopped putting ID tags on our bird dogs collars.  I've never had them survive more than 1-2 hunts and I got tired of replacing them.

Get your collars/tags from a hound hunting supply, the name tags rivet to your collars (that will last). Tags usually outlast the collars, I sometimes drill out the rivets to put tags on new collars that don't have a tag.

These come with tags:

https://www.dusupply.com/pro-oring-collar.html

https://www.outdoordogsupply.com/product/1-1-2-super-heavy-duty-d-o-dog-collar-free-name-tag/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg570uOWl4wIVAdNkCh3pqgHPEAkYAiABEgLny_D_BwE

Thanks for the tip, didnt think of this.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2019, 10:25:10 AM »
We stopped putting ID tags on our bird dogs collars.  I've never had them survive more than 1-2 hunts and I got tired of replacing them.

Get your collars/tags from a hound hunting supply, the name tags rivet to your collars (that will last). Tags usually outlast the collars, I sometimes drill out the rivets to put tags on new collars that don't have a tag.

These come with tags:

https://www.dusupply.com/pro-oring-collar.html

https://www.outdoordogsupply.com/product/1-1-2-super-heavy-duty-d-o-dog-collar-free-name-tag/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg570uOWl4wIVAdNkCh3pqgHPEAkYAiABEgLny_D_BwE

Very cool, thanks!

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2019, 12:07:51 PM »
The guy updated the thread on Facebook. The hounds are not chipped. Nobody has claimed them and theyíre at a shelter.
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2019, 12:42:55 PM »
Depending on the setting 24-72 hours, idaho has a lot of repeat names but if this is the fish creek off highway 12 they either ended up there by accident or the guy is a complete idiot.  More wolves then you can shake a stick at and no roads.
   


Thats Fish creek  in north Idaho by Twin and spirit lake I am pretty sure-its got a bunch of IEP land. Bear season been closed up there for 3 weeks  :chuckle:  Maybe they were running raccoons. Either way I will put the word out I used to hunt that area quite a bit. I think the dogs look to be in pretty good shape. Doubtfull they been out too long who knows. 

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 12:44:48 PM »
definitely fish creek behind twin lakes just re read and it says Kootenai county 

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2019, 02:17:37 PM »
These two are all over Facebook.  Hopefully the owner finds out.  Looks like a Walker and a Plott.
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2019, 03:15:23 PM »
Hope nothing happened to the owner? You would think they would be out driving the roads looked for there dogs.?

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2019, 05:11:19 PM »
Depending on the setting 24-72 hours, idaho has a lot of repeat names but if this is the fish creek off highway 12 they either ended up there by accident or the guy is a complete idiot.  More wolves then you can shake a stick at and no roads.
   


Thats Fish creek  in north Idaho by Twin and spirit lake I am pretty sure-its got a bunch of IEP land. Bear season been closed up there for 3 weeks  :chuckle:  Maybe they were running raccoons. Either way I will put the word out I used to hunt that area quite a bit. I think the dogs look to be in pretty good shape. Doubtfull they been out too long who knows.

That fish creek is in unit 2 and there's no training season there either. Hard to believe the dogs wouldn't have walked clear out of there since season closed three weeks ago?  :dunno:
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2019, 06:32:35 PM »
If the owner cant be found I might be able to talk my wife into taking them home. especially if they throw in the collars
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2019, 08:22:40 PM »
If the owner cant be found I might be able to talk my wife into taking them home. especially if they throw in the collars
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Now we're talking!  You need a couple hounds

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2019, 08:43:56 PM »
If the owner cant be found I might be able to talk my wife into taking them home. especially if they throw in the collars
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Now we're talking!  You need a couple hounds

First step would probably getting out behind yours though  ;) but if they come pre-trained and fully equipped it sure makes the pitch a lot easier to sell!
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2019, 09:06:21 PM »
 :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2019, 09:08:13 PM »
Hopefully they find their home.  We would always leave one of our shirts or jackets where we turned them out if they got lost or split up on a race.  Many times we would find them laying on the shirt or jacket in the morning

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2019, 09:12:37 PM »
Can you put new batteries in their collars or recharge them? maybe the owner could track them then? I know its been a while but is it worth a shot?

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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2019, 09:58:26 PM »
Can you put new batteries in their collars or recharge them? maybe the owner could track them then? I know its been a while but is it worth a shot?

They are rechargeable, but the distance is limited, best case 7 to 9 miles in perfect conditions.  Would be very unlikely.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2019, 07:16:31 PM »
I just saw on Facebook that they have been claimed.
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2019, 08:15:17 AM »
 :yeah:  good deal, I always worry about hounds that end up at shelters
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2019, 09:38:43 AM »
I just saw on Facebook that they have been claimed.


That's great! And yet....there goes my hound hopes
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2019, 02:41:57 PM »
Ill probably get flamed again but guy may likely be pissed someone took property that was not theirs.  As he has been waiting on his dogs to return for a week and now has to pay pound fees.
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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2019, 02:57:53 PM »
I would love to know the rest of the story on this one.  Glad the owner got the hounds back but there has to be more to the story.
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2019, 03:41:11 PM »
There's always more to the story. Always.
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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2019, 03:53:42 PM »
I'm sure there is more to the story, but at this point all I know is the owner showed up and claimed the dogs.  I will for sure post any updates if I can find out.
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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2019, 05:39:15 PM »
Ill probably get flamed again but guy may likely be pissed someone took property that was not theirs.  As he has been waiting on his dogs to return for a week and now has to pay pound fees.
   


Well intentioned people grab hounds a lot back in the telemetry days we had lots of dogs get free rides back to town  :chuckle: and we were usually still up in the woods hunting for the dogs. Itís part of the game but happens way less with the gps collars. I think I know those dogs and owner gave them away free because he had to get out of hounds. New owner is probably new to hounds which explains tracking collars but no nameplate collars. Could be different dogs though.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2019, 10:31:21 PM »
Ill probably get flamed again but guy may likely be pissed someone took property that was not theirs.  As he has been waiting on his dogs to return for a week and now has to pay pound fees.
You seem to jump in a lot with people trying to do the right thing and call them thieves these dogs were in wolf country and I would have done the same! you did the same thing to me in lost and found for trying to return a fishing pole to a young man that would have been taken by the next person there after I left with no knowledge of how it got got there, at least i am trying to get it back to the rightful owner as are the finders of the dogs.I almost signed off for good after your negative comment but stayed only to see this, now I am officially done with Hunt Washington and all the negativity and internet policing.Don't matter any anyhow I was just a lurker mostly but learned more about the great out doors here than any magazine or other website I will miss coming here every evening to wind down and see peoples success  stories but the negativity on here is a downer! It is a shame how there is always a negative comment in every post started. Bye !!!!!!!

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2019, 10:51:55 PM »
You are too sensitive imo and misunderstand my intentions.  We are all different and from different backgrounds not right or wrong simply different perspectives.  I wish everyone and all kinds the best. 
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« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2019, 11:10:27 PM »
And I realized  how negative my comments were and a personal attack on you, that's not who I am and i apologize for that, but still leaving.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2019, 06:15:03 AM »
Ill probably get flamed again but guy may likely be pissed someone took property that was not theirs.  As he has been waiting on his dogs to return for a week and now has to pay pound fees.
You seem to jump in a lot with people trying to do the right thing and call them thieves these dogs were in wolf country and I would have done the same! you did the same thing to me in lost and found for trying to return a fishing pole to a young man that would have been taken by the next person there after I left with no knowledge of how it got got there, at least i am trying to get it back to the rightful owner as are the finders of the dogs.I almost signed off for good after your negative comment but stayed only to see this, now I am officially done with Hunt Washington and all the negativity and internet policing.Don't matter any anyhow I was just a lurker mostly but learned more about the great out doors here than any magazine or other website I will miss coming here every evening to wind down and see peoples success  stories but the negativity on here is a downer! It is a shame how there is always a negative comment in every post started. Bye !!!!!!!
   

If you find hounds running down the road either leave them alone or if you have to do something and think they have been out a long time tie them to a tree or something(if itís a main road)and call phone numbers on collar let owner know what mile marker etc they are at. Some guys donít even like that when thereís wolves around but I have appreciated it because I will usually be up there somewhere looking and it made for quick retrieval.Bringing to town and feeding them a bunch of pizza cause you think they are starving should be your last choice   :chuckle::chuckle: This was a situation where it made perfect sense to bring dogs to town the trackers were dead and they had no contact information. This owner should be happy with what happened here even if it cost some pound fees. Plus they posted all over Facebook.  I am pretty sure it was the dogs I know and new guy got for free and might not have much experience which explains a lot.

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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2019, 08:20:32 AM »
 :yeah:
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Re: Missing hounds north Idaho
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2019, 09:34:15 AM »
 :yeah: x3

The most annoying thing was when people pick up your dogs and haul them two or three hours away to their home before calling! :bash:
But, I agree , it rarely happens with the gps collars, they are a huge improvement for not losing your dogs. I just wished the batteries would last longer than they do. I'm a firm believer that the gps collars save many dogs from being eaten by wolves.
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