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Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« on: January 12, 2024, 09:42:40 PM »


Inslee orders up wolf-removal rule for second time
By DON JENKINS Capital Press Jan 12, 2024 Updated 4 hrs ago

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee wants the state Fish and Wildlife Commission to write a new rule on managing wolves that attack livestock.

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Washington Gov. Jay Inslee sided with wolf advocates Friday, directing the Department of Fish and Wildlife to write a rule to control the agency's use of lethal control to stop attacks on livestock.

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Washington Gov. Jay Inslee sided with wolf advocates Jan. 12 and ordered the Department of Fish and Wildlife to write a rule dictating when the department will kill wolves to protect livestock.

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Inslee can't dictate rules to the Fish and Wildlife Commission, but he can order a rule-writing process. Inslee issued the same order in 2020, but the commission decided to stick with the department's current informal policy, which has stood up well in court.

In a letter to Washington Wildlife First, Inslee said a rule will provide consistency and confidence in the department's decisions. Wolf advocates hailed the governor's order.

Washington Wildlife First President Claire Loebs Davis said it was a significant victory for Washington's wolves.

"We thank Gov. Inslee for his courage and vision in once more taking a stand for Washington’s wolves," she said in a statement.

The commission voted 6-3 in October to not adopt a lethal-control rule, leading wolf advocates to petition Inslee.

By rejecting a rule, the commission left in place a protocol developed by the department's Wolf Advisory Group. The protocol guides but does not dictate when Fish and Wildlife Director Kelly Susewind will authorize lethal control.

Fish and Wildlife Commission Chairwoman Barbara Baker, a lawyer, has said a rule would make the department's decisions more vulnerable to court challenges. She said Friday the commission will discuss Inslee's letter, but declined further comment.

'Caught-in-the-act' dispute
The protocol calls for the department to consider shooting one or two wolves in a pack after three attacks in 30 days or four attacks in 10 months. Ranchers must have tried to prevent the predations.

Fish and Wildlife has killed 44 wolves since 2012. In that time, the state's wolf population has increased to at least 216 from 27.

Ranchers have shot eight wolves in the past 10 years under Washington's "caught-in-the-act" law, allowing ranchers to kill wolves attacking livestock.

Inslee sided with wolf advocates who say the law has been too loosely applied. According to the governor, "a number of wolves have recently been killed under 'caught in the act' when they were not attacking livestock."

The governor's letter did not provide any examples. Efforts to clarify the statement with the governor's office were not immediately successful Friday afternoon.

Scott Nielsen of the Cattle Producers of Washington said the governor's statement addressed "a problem that doesn't exist."

"I don't think that's accurate at all. If that's the case, why was nothing done?" he said.

Even if the commission again rejects Inslee's request to write a rule, the governor's comments likely will have an effect on the department, Nielsen said.

"We see this out on the ground. They respond to it," he said. "I don't think this will really be well received by the ranchers."

Wolf advocates have proposed a rule that would prohibit Fish and Wildlife from shooting wolves on public land or counting predations on public land against a pack.

The advocates have proposed eliminating the "caught-in-the-act" law and require ranchers to obtain a permit before shooting a wolf attacking livestock.

"Commonsense measures like the ones we proposed will set Washington on track to truly coexist with wolves," Center for Biological Diversity wolf advocate Amaroq Weiss said in a statement.


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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2024, 10:00:21 PM »
Such a tool
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2024, 10:02:36 PM »
 The “3 S’s” will be the result! :twocents:
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2024, 10:06:50 PM »
Alright Sharkbait what did you do this ti......

Oh...

Nevermind....

*censored* Inslee, you suck

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2024, 06:13:13 AM »
Wolves are like criminals in Washington..soft punishment doesn't work.
The more you give the more they take..
There's only one way to deal with both...


Jay's an incompetent tool.

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2024, 07:19:11 AM »
Wonder how much $ this will cost us ?
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2024, 12:58:55 PM »
It would cost me one round of ammunition per problem.
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2024, 03:55:16 PM »
What a POS

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2024, 04:36:00 PM »
Once again this clown is out of touch with reality… unfortunately it’ll get worse if Furgeson gets in.

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2024, 04:45:57 PM »
Uggg.  Inslee is such a pos.  Ferguson will be worse, somehow .  I think liberals compete against 1 another to look as stupid as possible.  Agree with the above post.  All Predators for that matter.

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2024, 05:05:04 PM »
Any bets on how happy the commission is on this?

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2024, 05:07:25 PM »
Free Pass _ Eat as much livestock as they want on public ground, which will only further the problem everywhere (including private land).
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2024, 08:04:45 PM »
Uggg.  Inslee is such a pos.  Ferguson will be worse, somehow .  I think liberals compete against 1 another to look as stupid as possible.

 And Huntwa has a gaggle of them, just waiting to get their ballots, and make him the new dictator!
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2024, 08:38:40 PM »
Was just coming to post the topic but figured it was somewhere on here already.   Here is the SR article link:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/jan/12/governor-orders-new-wolf-removal-rules/
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2024, 09:45:58 PM »
Was just coming to post the topic but figured it was somewhere on here already.   Here is the SR article link:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/jan/12/governor-orders-new-wolf-removal-rules/

The SR should have gotten a comment from anyone else besides just the CBD lawyer but I don't think they bothered to ask. Seems like a great chance to talk to someone on the WAG with a different perspective.
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2024, 10:51:18 PM »
I'm failing to see the "victory" on their end. Am I missing something? They're appealing the 6-3 vote but what exactly is the governor going to accomplish here? Genuine question.

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2024, 10:52:37 PM »
Was just coming to post the topic but figured it was somewhere on here already.   Here is the SR article link:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/jan/12/governor-orders-new-wolf-removal-rules/
Seems like a great chance to talk to someone on the WAG with a different perspective.

 And what gives you the impression that will have any effect?
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2024, 12:19:22 AM »
Was just coming to post the topic but figured it was somewhere on here already.   Here is the SR article link:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/jan/12/governor-orders-new-wolf-removal-rules/
Seems like a great chance to talk to someone on the WAG with a different perspective.

 And what gives you the impression that will have any effect?

Well considering that story went out on the wire and got published by the Seattle times, it would accurately report that even folks who love wolves think this is a wrong move. Even Conservation Northwest doesn't think it's the right nove

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/inslee-orders-wdfw-to-begin-rulemaking-on-wolf-livestock-regulations-again/
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2024, 08:47:41 AM »
You can say one thing about Jay: give him enough $$ and he'll produce for you.
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2024, 11:16:52 AM »
Maybe we should fund a go-camping trip for ol Jay so he can hang out with the wolves :bash:
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2024, 09:45:57 PM »
The “3 S’s” will be the result! :twocents:


Nothing will change from what it has been, rancher's etc., will continue to take care of wolves on their own, they learned early on that if you call WDF&Wolves it only prolongs the slaughter to your livestock.
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2024, 09:49:46 AM »
I got a couple pop up type ads about wolves. They were for a big fundraising gala called wolves and wine. Sponsored by Patagonia and I think wolf haven. Probably be all Jaydolf's wolf hugger friends that never go to the woods and need write offs for their trust funds.

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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2024, 10:28:53 AM »
Wonder how much $ this will cost us ?

If the ammunition tax goes through, quite a bit.
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2024, 10:58:48 AM »
I'm failing to see the "victory" on their end. Am I missing something? They're appealing the 6-3 vote but what exactly is the governor going to accomplish here? Genuine question.
Put pressure on the commissioners and for sure get it to pass this time...
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Re: Buckle up Jay is at it again.
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2024, 11:31:40 AM »
Nothing.  What is the response when sheriffs, county commissioners and his director are not on board?  Easy answer

 


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