Lake Washington Sockeye

[huntnphool]

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/headlines/lake-washington-sockeye-closing-fast-on-forecast-columbia-tally/

[jmscon]

They could save themselves a lot of time and some face if they just said "We will be getting some sockeye back this year." and just leave it at that.

Feels like there is a person in a room with six darts and a dart board. Here's the number for the year!

[Stein]

So you guys expect them to take an estimate of the outgoing fry, predict ocean survival for a couple of years and then know exactly to the fish how many are coming back?

They have a models with inputs and it kicks out several numbers depending on the formula and inputs.  They report that number.  It really isn't more complicated or  sinister than that.


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[huntnphool]

 So here is a potential issue if they open it up. The last time we had a fishery (2006) none of the businesses across the street from Coulon Park were there and we had plenty of parking. With all the new businesses there, those that use Coulon won't have anywhere to park once the few spots in the lot are filled.

[huntnphool]

So you guys expect them to take an estimate of the outgoing fry, predict ocean survival for a couple of years and then know exactly to the fish how many are coming back?

They have a models with inputs and it kicks out several numbers depending on the formula and inputs.  They report that number.  It really isn't more complicated or  sinister than that.

 And how much money/time is spent on these models, formula and input when in the end the determining factor is the count through the locks?

 Why spend money on that system when they can simply say "we will know if there is a fishery after the counts are done"?

 Seems to me any money spent on this meaningless, inaccurate system could be better spent elsewhere.

[jmscon]

Not going to see much more for a count, tribes are fishing in front of the fish ladder.

[WAcoueshunter]

Yeah, two nets out there today at the locks.  Still a ton of fish getting through, but I'm sure the tribes are getting theirs too. 

[jmscon]

Yesterday saw two inside the train bridge and more outside. I thought no one fished for sockeye until the 350k mark was hit. 

[Gobble Doc]

Aren't the seals fishing 24/7?

[huntnphool]

 Could this be the reason we no longer see the escapement returns needed to open the fishery to sport anglers?

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

[WAcoueshunter]

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

That's what I keep wondering.  How is it that they get 100% of the take in this run?

[Rainier10]

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

That's what I keep wondering.  How is it that they get 100% of the take in this run?

Our 50% is needed so that there are salmon in the future for us to split 50/50.  Their 50% is 100% of the harvest and our 50% is 100% to conservation and preserving the run.  It's a team effort. It's pretty simple really. 

[Fl0und3rz]

 

[lokidog]

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

That's what I keep wondering.  How is it that they get 100% of the take in this run?

Our 50% is needed so that there are salmon in the future for us to split 50/50.  Their 50% is 100% of the harvest and our 50% is 100% to conservation and preserving the run.  It's a team effort. It's pretty simple really. 

Sadly too true for words.....   

[Whitpirate]