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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #135 on: July 05, 2017, 08:16:11 PM »
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #136 on: July 05, 2017, 08:41:14 PM »
They could save themselves a lot of time and some face if they just said "We will be getting some sockeye back this year." and just leave it at that.

Feels like there is a person in a room with six darts and a dart board. Here's the number for the year!
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #137 on: July 05, 2017, 08:45:26 PM »
So you guys expect them to take an estimate of the outgoing fry, predict ocean survival for a couple of years and then know exactly to the fish how many are coming back?

They have a models with inputs and it kicks out several numbers depending on the formula and inputs.  They report that number.  It really isn't more complicated or  sinister than that.


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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #138 on: July 05, 2017, 08:48:04 PM »
 So here is a potential issue if they open it up. The last time we had a fishery (2006) none of the businesses across the street from Coulon Park were there and we had plenty of parking. With all the new businesses there, those that use Coulon won't have anywhere to park once the few spots in the lot are filled.
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #139 on: July 05, 2017, 08:54:52 PM »
So you guys expect them to take an estimate of the outgoing fry, predict ocean survival for a couple of years and then know exactly to the fish how many are coming back?

They have a models with inputs and it kicks out several numbers depending on the formula and inputs.  They report that number.  It really isn't more complicated or  sinister than that.

 And how much money/time is spent on these models, formula and input when in the end the determining factor is the count through the locks?

 Why spend money on that system when they can simply say "we will know if there is a fishery after the counts are done"?

 Seems to me any money spent on this meaningless, inaccurate system could be better spent elsewhere. :dunno:
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #140 on: July 08, 2017, 04:16:03 PM »
Not going to see much more for a count, tribes are fishing in front of the fish ladder.
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #141 on: July 09, 2017, 06:22:03 PM »
Yeah, two nets out there today at the locks.  Still a ton of fish getting through, but I'm sure the tribes are getting theirs too. 

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #142 on: July 09, 2017, 07:44:01 PM »
Yesterday saw two inside the train bridge and more outside. I thought no one fished for sockeye until the 350k mark was hit.  :dunno:
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #143 on: July 09, 2017, 09:11:01 PM »
Aren't the seals fishing 24/7?

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #144 on: July 09, 2017, 11:08:13 PM »
 Could this be the reason we no longer see the escapement returns needed to open the fishery to sport anglers?

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #145 on: July 10, 2017, 09:12:43 AM »

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

That's what I keep wondering.  How is it that they get 100% of the take in this run?

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #146 on: July 10, 2017, 09:31:10 AM »

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

That's what I keep wondering.  How is it that they get 100% of the take in this run?
Our 50% is needed so that there are salmon in the future for us to split 50/50.  Their 50% is 100% of the harvest and our 50% is 100% to conservation and preserving the run.  It's a team effort. It's pretty simple really.  :chuckle:
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #147 on: July 10, 2017, 10:03:22 AM »
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #148 on: July 10, 2017, 11:09:13 AM »

 If the bolt decision allows indians 50% of the harvest, where is our 50%?

That's what I keep wondering.  How is it that they get 100% of the take in this run?
Our 50% is needed so that there are salmon in the future for us to split 50/50.  Their 50% is 100% of the harvest and our 50% is 100% to conservation and preserving the run.  It's a team effort. It's pretty simple really.  :chuckle:

Sadly too true for words.....   :bash:

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #149 on: July 10, 2017, 11:19:29 AM »
 :yeah:

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