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Private gun sales?
« on: September 12, 2012, 10:46:18 PM »
What is the proper way to buy a used gun from a private owner? If they have the paperwork on it. what else would i need to make sure its all legal? Do i have to register it? I have always bought new,so buying used/private sale is foreign to me. help me o wise ones :chuckle:
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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2012, 10:51:08 PM »
What is the proper way to buy a used gun from a private owner? If they have the paperwork on it. what else would i need to make sure its all legal? Do i have to register it? I have always bought new,so buying used/private sale is foreign to me. help me o wise ones :chuckle:
I would grab the Serial number and check to make sure it is not reported stolen and write a bill of sale from the owner so you have proof you bought it for $XX amount. 

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2012, 10:51:40 PM »
No, you don't have to "register" it. The last thing you want is the government knowing what firearms you own.  :bdid: Seller doesn't even 'need' to have the paperwork on it. I would request a home made bill of sale from them--make sure the serial number is on it, that its dated, and their name is both spelled out and signed.

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2012, 10:54:59 PM »
I only buy from folks with conceal pistol Lin. Unless I know them. I never sell.

There are no regulations person to person.
Except to sell to minor or mental ill. That's why I require CPL.

Lots of good info on www.opencarry.org.  Washington forum.
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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2012, 10:57:44 PM »
I would suggest it would be a good idea to make sure they are from WA...don't want to get caught up with it crossing state lines w/o FFL.

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2012, 11:05:14 PM »
I general only buy/sell/trade with people that have cpl's.   Not a big fan of bills of sale either.   I would only take/give a cpl number personally.  Names,  addresses etc are more liability than anything IMO.   If anything comes back the police can track a cpl number just as easily as a name and address.

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2012, 11:18:20 PM »
The proper way? Hand them the cash, they hand you the gun. Done deal. No need for names, CPL's, addresses, bills of sale, nothing. Don't make it more complicated than it has to be.

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2012, 11:29:01 PM »
If I carry the gun i buy, and get pulled over and the cop runs the gun's # also. What do they see? Does the gun need to be registered to carry it?
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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2012, 11:31:23 PM »
There is no such thing as gun registration in this state.


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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2012, 11:53:02 PM »
I always thought that the guns you owned had to be in your name kinda like cars. I just dont want to get in gun trouble with carrying the used pistol i wanna get. So, i should be alright with it, as long as it does not show up as stolen,but that shouldnt matter if the guy has paperwork matching the guns serial number. Am I missing anything?
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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2012, 12:13:20 AM »
What kind of paperwork do you think the seller would have? Their purchase reciept won't have the serial number and even if the gun was stolen they could have the factory paperwork if they stole the gun in the original case. So paperwork with the serial number means absolutely nothing. If you are concerned about it being stolen, have the serial number run to check. Otherwise in this state there is no paperwork required for private gun sales. Most likely if the gun is stolen and you tell the seller that you want to run the serial number before purchasing they will back out of the sale. If you did buy a gun that was stolen and then were checked by a law officer they might just confiscate the gun or they could arrest you. Don't buy from someone you don't feel that you can trust.

Edited to add, No there is no gun registration required in this state, although some people might say otherwise.

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2012, 05:49:15 AM »
If you are stopped for a traffic violation and you are for whatever reason, found to be in possession of a stolen firearm, the Officer WILL seize the firearm, they are required to take it because it is reported stolen.
Now whether or not you go to jail will depend on the Officer believing your story as to how you came to be in possession of the weapon. You will be detained for a period of time and quite possibly placed into custody then perhaps transported to their Police precinct for an interview with their option of letting you walk or you could be placed in jail for up to 72 hours while they consider charges. These are all possibilities that they have the authority to do, but rest assured they will take the weapon. Being in possession of a stolen firearm is a crime, it is how you respond to the questioning and what proof you have to back up your story that makes the difference and too, I might add, the experience of the arresting Officer.

Now.....If you purchase the firearm and you contact a local Law Enforcement Office then have them run the serial number and it returns as stolen, they will seize the firearm, ask you a bunch of questions, you will be out of the cash and the firearm. This method shows that you were concerned about the legality of the firearm and you will likely not be taken into custody.

My suggestion, if you don't trust the person that is selling the firearm, is to write down the serial number, contact the local LEO and ask them to run the number for stolen. If it comes back clear, it may perhaps still be stolen, just not reported. Lots of people do not have the serial numbers to firearms after they are stolen but instead, give a description of it to the police which makes it tough to prove stolen. There are other firearms that are listed as missing and may or may not have the serial numbers listed in the original police report say if it were taken in a burglary. 

However, there is no required registration in this state.
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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 06:05:28 AM »
I only buy from folks with conceal pistol Lin. Unless I know them. I never sell.

There are no regulations person to person.
Except to sell to minor or mental ill. That's why I require CPL.

Lots of good info on www.opencarry.org.  Washington forum.

I totally agree.

Nothing is perfect, but this approach is the best IMHO to atleast attempt to keep firearms out of the hands of those who should not have them.
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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 06:34:15 AM »
What is the proper way to buy a used gun from a private owner? If they have the paperwork on it. what else would i need to make sure its all legal? Do i have to register it? I have always bought new,so buying used/private sale is foreign to me. help me o wise ones :chuckle:

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Re: Private gun sales?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 08:36:31 AM »
There is no exhaustive, monolithic gun registry in the United.States. Thank God. When we speak of LEOs ' running the.serial number,' its only to check NCIC to see if it has between reported stolen. No report, no records returned.

If you find yourself in the situation FALFire described, keep your mouth shut and get an attorney, stat.  :twocents:

 


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