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Would you turn in a wolf poacher?

Yes
53 (17.5%)
No
250 (82.5%)

Total Members Voted: 303

Voting closed: October 04, 2012, 10:49:29 PM

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Offline Gringo31

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2012, 09:21:44 AM »
No I wouldn't.

I've been to the meetings etc, etc, etc.

Fact is many of us feel very strongly about our wildlife and also get the VERY CLEAR message that WDFW really doesn't want to listen to us.  It's about federal $, preservation and not conservation.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2012, 09:21:44 AM »
Um, wow, Double-lung, you are probably the most principled (and bravest) man I've ever encountered.   :chuckle:

Reminds me of a Patrick McManus story involving a game warden...

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2012, 09:22:43 AM »
I think hunters are more alert on this topic as the writing is on the wall and we have all been witness to the s**t Idaho, Montana and Wyoming are going through.  Some of you are so obedient.  Just because I won’t tell doesn’t make me just as illegal.  It makes me a Politian.

If they make it illegal to drive your vehicle next month because they cause global warming, I suppose most of you would walk because it would be illegal otherwise.  Just saying.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2012, 09:31:23 AM »
Yes I would.  Ever since I took my wife to see the game warden for killing a mule deer during a late whitetail season, 4 months into our marriage, she pretty much demands that I turn in every poacher I see.

Did you collect your points?   :chuckle:
Unfortunately, that was in Wyoming, so no points option.  I was working for the WY G&F at the time, so not just a fine, my job was on the line.  She understood.  Funny thing though, she was p.o.'ed I couldn't get a cash reward since I was a Dep't. employee.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2012, 09:32:32 AM »
When the state fails its citizens through the ineptness of its own rules, and dooms these normally law abiding to a slow demise what are they to do? If the State Provides no remedy for the damages associated with regulation and or puts forth an effort that is lacking yet will enforce the same inept regulation with Zeal, what choice does the population have? How is it that normally upstanding lawabiding citizens become law breakers?  I would say it is because the state leaves law abiding citizens no choice. They can suffer the long demise OR take the chance at being caught and labled as a law breaker...
Since the Government is supposed to work FOR the people are unjust laws moral?

It is unfortunate that our WDFW and State legislature cannot seem to view recent history of ID MT and the relative success of WY on this issue. If you were to find your livelihood stuck between a rock and a hard spot what would you do?

BTW there are many people who have suffered similar financial pain that were not wolf related. Many were private property related and given no real consideration..

I don't think many of these statements prove anything about wolves or hunting. What it does prove is how little consideration has been given to those affected by this issue, yet PLENTY of consideration has been given to people that are so remotely affected it boggles the mind.  :twocents:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2012, 09:37:35 AM »
if you turn a blind eye to illegal activities you are just as guilty and no better than that person.
what do you do in the case of Montana? Gov. Barry said that since the feds wouldn't do anything about the wolf issue then he was instructing his F&G and police to not enforce the law when one was killed, are they guilty too?

 How about Obama instructing ICE not to enforce imigration laws? Does that make him guilty too?

 
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RE: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2012, 09:45:13 AM »

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2012, 09:47:16 AM »
yes, a poach is a poach, a white lie is no less a lie and a $5 bill is no different that $100 bill stolen, all of the above are as equally destructive. it all comes down to ethic, morality, and honesty. If they will poach a wolf they will poach a elk, its all about the "i can get away with it" mentality. That being said, I personally would not go out looking to poach a wolf, BUT if i see a wolf while I'm hunting, bang, dead wolf, because I wish to live and they are more deadly then a tom as far as I'm concerned, because I know his buddies are lurking around me very close. Crap, Id have to turn myself in  :chuckle:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2012, 09:56:24 AM »
I've yet to see an "anti" out in the woods well off the paved roads.


This is a discussion among hunters, to see if the line has been drawn in the sand. 

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2012, 09:58:55 AM »
You guys that are trying to say poaching is poaching NO MATTER what kill me!

So according to you law abiding , BY the BOOK guys,

YOU dont speed? come to a complete stop at every stop sign, never throw a gum wrapper out the window, throw a cigarette butt out the window,  slow to 35 on the curve,  YA right.

So who is choosing what laws to break ? HMMMM might have something to do with getting 10 points so you can eat that BIG BULLS HORNS someday....

What it really comes down to is , Who owns the wildlife in this state? WE the people do. Sure we try and obey the game regs, if you can interpret what they mean.  But Im sorry ETHICS and these wolves should not be used in the same sentence, what is ethical about our politicians allowing the wolves to be brought in, and WE the hunters are paying for them to do so.

To hell with them wolves and anyone who supports them. Bitch about hunting but yet support wolves!! you got issues.. :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2012, 10:00:18 AM »
PS,

Dont pick up that 5 dollar bill laying in the parking lot that someone lost! IT ISNT YOURS THIEF


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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2012, 10:04:52 AM »
Turn in a POACHER--yes!  Turn in someone for shooting a wolf--hell, no.  I'd probably have to turn myself in......
If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2012, 10:08:19 AM »
Not going to state my position on a public forum, however I will mention that influential people have accomplished  some pretty great things with CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.


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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2012, 10:13:29 AM »
PS,

Dont pick up that 5 dollar bill laying in the parking lot that someone lost! IT ISNT YOURS THIEF


RTSPRING

thats finding not stealing, so yes its now miner because its been abandoned, its lonely, its scared, I will comfort it by dropping it off at the nearest burger king to be safe and warm  :chuckle:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2012, 10:15:11 AM »
Not going to state my position on a public forum, however I will mention that influential people have accomplished  some pretty great things with CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.

You mean like Prohibition?  Way to make people who would never drink alcohol want it!   :chuckle:  Another case of the government kow-towing to a few zealots!
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