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Looks like AK to me. In which case, it has no bearing on this discussion. Up there, you may kill many many deer. My native buddies? I hardly know em! How presumptuous!
Its been answered a couple times, have you been reading the posts? I know I answered a couple times myself, post #311 for example.
QuoteIts been answered a couple times, have you been reading the posts? I know I answered a couple times myself, post #311 for example.I have been. I read the Lock the Gates thread. I guess I just didn't see any real move for us instead of "locking the gates." Which is a great idea, but how? Who do we need to contact to get it done? If I missed it, my fault. Fill me in, please.
Quote from: grundy53 on December 18, 2012, 11:40:23 PMQuote from: Coastal_native on December 18, 2012, 11:31:06 PMQuote from: huntnphool on December 18, 2012, 11:22:36 PMQuote from: MountainWalk on December 18, 2012, 11:17:19 PMWell, if so many bucks are getting dropped after the main rut, seems like a doe doesn't have that much of a hard time getting bred. Grundy, if I recall correctly, didn't you say that there were 17 in your party? And 13 bulls killed? That's an awful lot of bull killing for one camp. How is your herd doing?The difference here Mountainwalk is they are accounted for and have harvest limits set accordingly. Its obvious you have no problem with whats happening in Entiat and Swakane, you seem to be arguing the indians point to exhaustion, why not just come out and say it? Not to be inflammatory, but there are infinite over the counter bull and buck tags available in most areas here in western Washington. Where are the harvest limits in that management regime? There are areas over here that can have every branched bull shot out just as Long as we keep most of those spikes alive until the end of the following September so they can breed as rag horns. That's how a party of 17 can shoot 12 elk from "managed" herds.Every three years the game department reviews harvest statistics and sets the dates of the hunts accordingly. There is a reason we only get to hunt with a rifle for 12 days... not 6 months and those 12 days are in November not September or December. Also we are only allowed one elk per person per year....You're giving wdfw too much credit. There are people hunting from September through December in most areas (with a few breaks). If the state has a high success year they could effectively kill everything. Thank god for private property, closed gates, rain, lazy hunters, the park, the reservation, trees, brush, etc... Those things are what really limit harvest, not the state. If you don't agree with that, you have blinders on. I have a better understanding of population dynamics and reconstruction modeling then most. You can't fool me with big words. Regulations have little to do with actual science (state or tribal). Science may be used to try to justify decisions that have already been made.
Quote from: Coastal_native on December 18, 2012, 11:31:06 PMQuote from: huntnphool on December 18, 2012, 11:22:36 PMQuote from: MountainWalk on December 18, 2012, 11:17:19 PMWell, if so many bucks are getting dropped after the main rut, seems like a doe doesn't have that much of a hard time getting bred. Grundy, if I recall correctly, didn't you say that there were 17 in your party? And 13 bulls killed? That's an awful lot of bull killing for one camp. How is your herd doing?The difference here Mountainwalk is they are accounted for and have harvest limits set accordingly. Its obvious you have no problem with whats happening in Entiat and Swakane, you seem to be arguing the indians point to exhaustion, why not just come out and say it? Not to be inflammatory, but there are infinite over the counter bull and buck tags available in most areas here in western Washington. Where are the harvest limits in that management regime? There are areas over here that can have every branched bull shot out just as Long as we keep most of those spikes alive until the end of the following September so they can breed as rag horns. That's how a party of 17 can shoot 12 elk from "managed" herds.Every three years the game department reviews harvest statistics and sets the dates of the hunts accordingly. There is a reason we only get to hunt with a rifle for 12 days... not 6 months and those 12 days are in November not September or December. Also we are only allowed one elk per person per year....
Quote from: huntnphool on December 18, 2012, 11:22:36 PMQuote from: MountainWalk on December 18, 2012, 11:17:19 PMWell, if so many bucks are getting dropped after the main rut, seems like a doe doesn't have that much of a hard time getting bred. Grundy, if I recall correctly, didn't you say that there were 17 in your party? And 13 bulls killed? That's an awful lot of bull killing for one camp. How is your herd doing?The difference here Mountainwalk is they are accounted for and have harvest limits set accordingly. Its obvious you have no problem with whats happening in Entiat and Swakane, you seem to be arguing the indians point to exhaustion, why not just come out and say it? Not to be inflammatory, but there are infinite over the counter bull and buck tags available in most areas here in western Washington. Where are the harvest limits in that management regime? There are areas over here that can have every branched bull shot out just as Long as we keep most of those spikes alive until the end of the following September so they can breed as rag horns. That's how a party of 17 can shoot 12 elk from "managed" herds.
Quote from: MountainWalk on December 18, 2012, 11:17:19 PMWell, if so many bucks are getting dropped after the main rut, seems like a doe doesn't have that much of a hard time getting bred. Grundy, if I recall correctly, didn't you say that there were 17 in your party? And 13 bulls killed? That's an awful lot of bull killing for one camp. How is your herd doing?The difference here Mountainwalk is they are accounted for and have harvest limits set accordingly. Its obvious you have no problem with whats happening in Entiat and Swakane, you seem to be arguing the indians point to exhaustion, why not just come out and say it?
Well, if so many bucks are getting dropped after the main rut, seems like a doe doesn't have that much of a hard time getting bred. Grundy, if I recall correctly, didn't you say that there were 17 in your party? And 13 bulls killed? That's an awful lot of bull killing for one camp. How is your herd doing?
houndhunter isnt washingtons beliefs great! Its morally alright to marry the same sex, its also morally ok to have an abortion and washington decided now to say its morally alright to smoke weed, even tho the federal government say no! YET hound hunting and baiting is considered morally unethical! i wouldn't put to much stock in the wdfw hunting regs!lol
I'd say he's just like me, big ole fingers trying to push little buttons on a phone. I usually punch extra keys but, for me i edit because I got more time on my hands to edit. Im not going to say anything to anybody as long as I can understand and comprehend what they're trying to say. Just my 2 cents.Coastal, regardless of the comments directed towards our particular group your words of wisdom are always welcomed in my book and I agree with what's occured in your area as far asmanagement efforts. I don't think we can hold you accountable for what occured 25 years ago but, we can applaud the efforts you're doing now.Friends of the Entiat, now this sounds like action and I wish you guys the best. Like I've said before, doing something is better than doing nothing.
