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7mm Rifle
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:28:18 PM »
Looking for a 7mm rifle any sugestions?

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 04:37:04 PM »
Gun shops, classifieds.  :dunno: Lot's of them for sale around here.  Hunting rig?  Target rig?  How you gonna use it?
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 04:46:51 PM »
Yes. First you need to decide which 7mm cartridge you want. There are several of them. Personally, I like the 7mm WSM.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 04:58:36 PM »
steps for picking a rifle..

1..intended use
2..how much money are your able to spend
3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
4..how fast you'd like the lead to go (refer back to step one)
5..duration of use..is this a life long hunting partner ? or just a gun to get you into the woods

some food for thought

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 05:07:43 PM »
If you are relatively new to shooting, you may want to hook up with someone who owns one of the 7mms and send a few rounds down range.....make sure its what you are looking for.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 05:25:03 PM »
1..intended use
ELK, DEER

2..how much money are your able to spend
UNLIMITED WITHIN REASON 3-4K MAX.

3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT.

4..how fast you'd like the lead to go (refer back to step one)
??? ELK

5..duration of use..is this a life long hunting partner ? or just a gun to get you into the woods
LIFE LONG

 First you need to decide which 7mm cartridge you want. There are several of them. Personally, I like the 7mm WSM.
ITS ACTUALLY FOR MY DAD, HES THINKING 7MM MAG.

If you are relatively new to shooting, you may want to hook up with someone who owns one of the 7mms and send a few rounds down range.....make sure its what you are looking for.
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 05:25:32 PM »
I'm a big fan of the 7mm.  My preference is the 7 rem mag.  I prefer short throw bolts for hunting which means Sako, Weatherby MKV, Browning and a few others.  Problem is I detest 26" barrels for hunting.  My main 7mm is a Browning with a 24" barrel - dang good shooter with 140 grain bullets!  I've shot the Sako A7 a bit and it may even shoot better than my custom Browning.  Quite a few choices in 24" Weatherby 7 rem mag these days too.

I have found some tempermental behaviors in 7mm guns over the years.  Some like light bullets, some like heavy bullets and few like all bullets.  Not sure why that is :dunno:  Because of this my Custom Browning will be going off to get a new fluted match grade barrel.  I'm told that should take care of any issues.  We'll have to see.

If looking for a target rifle that might see a little hunting I'm not sure I have ever shot one better than the Remington Sendaro.  Not sure they still offer it in 7 mag, but it was a fantastic gun.  Though I would not want to carry it too far from the truck.  And certainly would not be taking many of hand shots with it.

As with any weapon it all boils down to personal preference.  Not many bad guns out there these days.  Find the one that talks to you in a seductive voice and buy her.  I'm sure your going to be happy together for many, many years to come :tup:
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 05:31:21 PM »
With that kind of budget I'd go with the Sheep Hunter
http://www.defensiveedge.net/Custom%20Rifle/custom%20rifles.htm

RBros offers rifles like that as well and is local. Good guy and great work.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 05:35:34 PM »
With that kind of budget I'd go with the Sheep Hunter
http://www.defensiveedge.net/Custom%20Rifle/custom%20rifles.htm
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 05:37:35 PM »
Here you go, all set up and ready to go. http://www.longrangehunting.com/rifles/
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 05:50:13 PM »
www.crosscanyonarms.com         has recently caught my attention.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 05:50:57 PM »

4..how fast you'd like the lead to go (refer back to step one)
??? ELK


i was thinking of like a max range ?? do you wana shoot elk at 1000 yards ? cuz that would force ya to have an X amount of foot pounds of wammy down range to kill..idk what your "x" is but mine is around 850 foot pounds which is achievable in the 7wsm...some people really want there elk dead so they shoot the ultras or the stw or what ever but that adds weight to the action and barrel

light an accurate are kinda hit or miss...id def stay away from the thin barrel rifles
but anything in your price range should shoot as good as you can reload


personaly id go with a stiller action,proof carbon barrel,H-S precision stock,7 wsm .. all put together by whom ever is an amazing gun smith




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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 05:56:48 PM »
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ITS ACTUALLY FOR MY DAD, HES THINKING 7MM MAG.

So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?

There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 06:04:52 PM »
So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?

There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
SORRY, IM NOT THAT KNOWLAGABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS... IF I HAD TO GUESS I WOULD SAY REM MAG, OR WSM. IM TEXTING HIM BACK AND FORTH AS THIS GOES. IF IT HELPS HE TELLS ME HIS MAX RANGE IS 500 YARDS WANTS TO SHOOT FACTORY AMMO.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2013, 06:20:51 PM »
call Kirby at Allen Precision Shooting in Hamilton Mt.  I've had two customs built by Kirby and he is fantastic and his rifles just plain shoot.  He built my wife a custom, that is very light, extremely accurate and looks great too.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2013, 06:28:00 PM »
So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?

There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
SORRY, IM NOT THAT KNOWLAGABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS... IF I HAD TO GUESS I WOULD SAY REM MAG, OR WSM. IM TEXTING HIM BACK AND FORTH AS THIS GOES. IF IT HELPS HE TELLS ME HIS MAX RANGE IS 500 YARDS WANTS TO SHOOT FACTORY AMMO.

Max range of 500 yards and factory ammo........then he doesn't really need a $3,000 rifle.  Browning X-bolt in 7 mm Rem Mag comes to mind.  Or Savage if he doesn't mind an "ugly" rifle. :twocents:
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2013, 06:29:22 PM »
So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?

There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
SORRY, IM NOT THAT KNOWLAGABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS... IF I HAD TO GUESS I WOULD SAY REM MAG, OR WSM. IM TEXTING HIM BACK AND FORTH AS THIS GOES. IF IT HELPS HE TELLS ME HIS MAX RANGE IS 500 YARDS WANTS TO SHOOT FACTORY AMMO.

Max range of 500 yards and factory ammo........then he doesn't really need a $3,000 rifle.  Browning X-bolt in 7 mm Rem Mag comes to mind.  Or Savage if he doesn't mind an "ugly" rifle that will outshoot a Browning X-Bolt. :twocents:


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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 06:32:46 PM »
I'd probably get a Sako in either 7mm WSM or 7mm Rem Mag, if I had that much money to spend.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2013, 06:42:17 PM »
Thanks, Dan-O.   :salute:


I agree with the Sako, too.  He could spend the extra coin on a really good scope too.......  :twocents:
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2013, 06:42:47 PM »
I can say I am very happy with my Savage 111Long Range Hunter in 7mm Rem Mag.  WIth quality factory ammo it will easily handle deer and elk at 500 yards.  Great rifle deserving of higher end glass........

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2013, 06:44:37 PM »
I wasn't really thinking with that last post. I think the first thing I would try to do is buy an American made gun. Sure I would still consider the Sako but it wouldn't be at the top of my list for that reason. I'd be looking at Savage, Remington, and possibly Ruger. No, not Winchester because I don't like the location of the safety. But that's all just personal preference. I'd also consider the custom made rifles that others have suggested.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2013, 06:52:30 PM »
Thanks guys really appreciate the responses.  :tup:

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2013, 06:52:42 PM »
Ive got a ruger m77 7 rem mag in the classifieds for sale.

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2013, 06:54:04 PM »
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2013, 06:56:01 PM »
Give Travis with RBros rifles a call.  He is a site sponsor and builds one hell of a rifle.  He is also great at answering questions.

He built me a 7mm mag and I cant wait to stretch the legs out on it this spring.

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2013, 07:55:32 PM »
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."


To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix. 

7WSM is a great round, but the mention of factory ammo throws that one out too.  It's a shame as it is quite possibly the best of the WSM's IMO.

American made would be nice.  Problem is not many of them offer a lightweight 7 mag option unless you go custom.  I'd like to see Ruger come out with a stainless American w/ 24" barrel.  The Remington version sounds good too though I have not gotten to put my hands on one.  Dang bunghole ugly, but very affordable and accurate.  You could put $1,500.00 in glass on one and still be within budget.  Can probably still do that with the Sako.

Would sure hate to see you bust the budget on a custom gun and not be able to put some good glass on it.
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2013, 08:06:54 PM »
Some 7's can be finiky with ammo. I'd go with a 300 wm in maybe a rem 700 long range system , always room for upgrades . the 300 gives you so many ammo options ans a 215 bullet would perform assume out to his range . topped with a vx3 .

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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2013, 08:23:57 PM »
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."


To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix. 
 

gotta disagree abit

light guns can shoot as far as the shooter can,heavy guns just make it easier to hold steady

just takes more practice  :tup:

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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2013, 09:32:20 PM »
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."


To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix. 
 

gotta disagree abit

light guns can shoot as far as the shooter can,heavy guns just make it easier to hold steady

just takes more practice  :tup:

My intent simply was most longrange hunters are anything but light.  If you want to use all capitals to express "LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."  I interpret that as, weight is very important as long as it will still shoot accurately.  Perhaps I pay a little too much attention to cap-locks :dunno:
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2013, 09:53:31 PM »
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."


To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix. 
 

gotta disagree abit

light guns can shoot as far as the shooter can,heavy guns just make it easier to hold steady

just takes more practice  :tup:

My intent simply was most longrange hunters are anything but light.  If you want to use all capitals to express "LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."  I interpret that as, weight is very important as long as it will still shoot accurately.  Perhaps I pay a little too much attention to cap-locks :dunno:

i was thinkn he was just using cap-locks to show his response..i was thinking you meant in order to shoot long range you must go "heavy"

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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2013, 10:00:32 PM »
I find I'm often confused these days :chuckle:
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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2013, 11:22:06 PM »
Ran my 7mm out to 600 yards last month. Something weird bout the combo i'm running.... didnt have to start doping till 400.
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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2013, 11:36:16 PM »
Ran my 7mm out to 600 yards last month. Something weird bout the combo i'm running.... didnt have to start doping till 400.
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2013, 12:59:36 AM »
Nope.... weird right?
"Right now, I am thinking that If my grandmother was here, she would be lecturing me about how there are poor people in Africa, that would just love to have a Ruger, I would just say "Great, granny, lets just ship all the Rugers to Africa!"


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Re: 7mm Rifle
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2013, 07:54:01 AM »
Definitely go with a 7 Rem Mag over the WSM or SAUM.  Brass is easier to find and if properly built, you will get more performance with the 7RM over the others.  If he doesn't mind a wildcat, my 7mm Rogue is also performing very well.  180's at 3100 in a 26" barrel is pretty standard with a mild load.  Making them light and still wanting maximum accuracy is a balancing act. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2013, 03:50:39 PM »
Thanks rbros. You should be getting a call in the next couple weeks from him  :tup:

 


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