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Offline Odell

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Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2013, 07:37:32 PM »
The law makes the hunter retrieve the bird right after you down it.  No letting them float or lay around until you are ready is how I understand. Also if the bird gets away wonded the hunter has to count it towards the limit.

This is not the law. Maybe it should be, but wounded game that gets away is not part of your legal bag limit.

Lots left to interpretation of legal bag limit.  Does not state at all that your legal bag limit is what is in your possession only.  I could be wrong but can't argue because there is lots of grey area that can be used against the hunter.

Warden sees a hunter knock down 10 ducks and that hunters has 7 when checked?  Then what?  I can see the Warden  accuse that hunter shooting over limits and wasting.   
Wounded game that gets away is not quite the same thing as a knocked down duck. In your situation wanton waste would apply. Knocking birds down and not retrieving them is much different than seeing a leg hanging on a duck as it flies away.

If you knock them down but they swim away it is up to the warden who observed you to decide if your effort to retrieve them was sufficient.

But nowhere in the wa regs does if say that wounded game that gets away is part of your bag limit.
what in the wild wild world of sports???

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2013, 04:53:43 PM »
The law makes the hunter retrieve the bird right after you down it.  No letting them float or lay around until you are ready is how I understand. Also if the bird gets away wonded the hunter has to count it towards the limit.

This is not the law. Maybe it should be, but wounded game that gets away is not part of your legal bag limit.

Lots left to interpretation of legal bag limit.  Does not state at all that your legal bag limit is what is in your possession only.  I could be wrong but can't argue because there is lots of grey area that can be used against the hunter.

Warden sees a hunter knock down 10 ducks and that hunters has 7 when checked?  Then what?  I can see the Warden  accuse that hunter shooting over limits and wasting.   
Wounded game that gets away is not quite the same thing as a knocked down duck. In your situation wanton waste would apply. Knocking birds down and not retrieving them is much different than seeing a leg hanging on a duck as it flies away.

If you knock them down but they swim away it is up to the warden who observed you to decide if your effort to retrieve them was sufficient.

But nowhere in the wa regs does if say that wounded game that gets away is part of your bag limit.

But no where saying it relieves a hunter of not counting cripples getting away towards your daily limit either.    That is the problem. 

Yes a hunter could get away with one or two swimming off but the Feds could nail hunters if 30 get shot down to get 7 as example.
Don't read my post if facts hurt your feeling.

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 08:23:43 PM »
The law makes the hunter retrieve the bird right after you down it.  No letting them float or lay around until you are ready is how I understand. Also if the bird gets away wonded the hunter has to count it towards the limit.

This is not the law. Maybe it should be, but wounded game that gets away is not part of your legal bag limit.

Lots left to interpretation of legal bag limit.  Does not state at all that your legal bag limit is what is in your possession only.  I could be wrong but can't argue because there is lots of grey area that can be used against the hunter.

Warden sees a hunter knock down 10 ducks and that hunters has 7 when checked?  Then what?  I can see the Warden  accuse that hunter shooting over limits and wasting.   
Wounded game that gets away is not quite the same thing as a knocked down duck. In your situation wanton waste would apply. Knocking birds down and not retrieving them is much different than seeing a leg hanging on a duck as it flies away.

If you knock them down but they swim away it is up to the warden who observed you to decide if your effort to retrieve them was sufficient.

But nowhere in the wa regs does if say that wounded game that gets away is part of your bag limit.

And you're completely wrong.  It's up to the courts.    :tup: :tup: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:


Before you go spouting the law, you should know it first.  :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 10:49:25 PM »
The law makes the hunter retrieve the bird right after you down it.  No letting them float or lay around until you are ready is how I understand. Also if the bird gets away wonded the hunter has to count it towards the limit.

This is not the law. Maybe it should be, but wounded game that gets away is not part of your legal bag limit.

Lots left to interpretation of legal bag limit.  Does not state at all that your legal bag limit is what is in your possession only.  I could be wrong but can't argue because there is lots of grey area that can be used against the hunter.

Warden sees a hunter knock down 10 ducks and that hunters has 7 when checked?  Then what?  I can see the Warden  accuse that hunter shooting over limits and wasting.   
Wounded game that gets away is not quite the same thing as a knocked down duck. In your situation wanton waste would apply. Knocking birds down and not retrieving them is much different than seeing a leg hanging on a duck as it flies away.

If you knock them down but they swim away it is up to the warden who observed you to decide if your effort to retrieve them was sufficient.

But nowhere in the wa regs does if say that wounded game that gets away is part of your bag limit.

And you're completely wrong.  It's up to the courts.    :tup: :tup: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:


Before you go spouting the law, you should know it first.  :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:

So you are now an atty ??
I thought you were a truck driver.

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2013, 07:19:27 AM »
The law makes the hunter retrieve the bird right after you down it.  No letting them float or lay around until you are ready is how I understand. Also if the bird gets away wonded the hunter has to count it towards the limit.

This is not the law. Maybe it should be, but wounded game that gets away is not part of your legal bag limit.

Lots left to interpretation of legal bag limit.  Does not state at all that your legal bag limit is what is in your possession only.  I could be wrong but can't argue because there is lots of grey area that can be used against the hunter.

Warden sees a hunter knock down 10 ducks and that hunters has 7 when checked?  Then what?  I can see the Warden  accuse that hunter shooting over limits and wasting.   
Wounded game that gets away is not quite the same thing as a knocked down duck. In your situation wanton waste would apply. Knocking birds down and not retrieving them is much different than seeing a leg hanging on a duck as it flies away.

If you knock them down but they swim away it is up to the warden who observed you to decide if your effort to retrieve them was sufficient.

But nowhere in the wa regs does if say that wounded game that gets away is part of your bag limit.

And you're completely wrong.  It's up to the courts.    :tup: :tup: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:


Before you go spouting the law, you should know it first.  :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:

So you are now an atty ??
I thought you were a truck driver.

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He was an atty just for the day on a few posts.  He was posting after a few stiff ones.  Caused some slight confusion.  :chuckle:
Cut em!
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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2013, 07:46:29 AM »
The law makes the hunter retrieve the bird right after you down it.  No letting them float or lay around until you are ready is how I understand. Also if the bird gets away wonded the hunter has to count it towards the limit.

This is not the law. Maybe it should be, but wounded game that gets away is not part of your legal bag limit.

Lots left to interpretation of legal bag limit.  Does not state at all that your legal bag limit is what is in your possession only.  I could be wrong but can't argue because there is lots of grey area that can be used against the hunter.

Warden sees a hunter knock down 10 ducks and that hunters has 7 when checked?  Then what?  I can see the Warden  accuse that hunter shooting over limits and wasting.   
Wounded game that gets away is not quite the same thing as a knocked down duck. In your situation wanton waste would apply. Knocking birds down and not retrieving them is much different than seeing a leg hanging on a duck as it flies away.

If you knock them down but they swim away it is up to the warden who observed you to decide if your effort to retrieve them was sufficient.

But nowhere in the wa regs does if say that wounded game that gets away is part of your bag limit.

And you're completely wrong.  It's up to the courts.    :tup: :tup: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:


Before you go spouting the law, you should know it first.  :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:

The court is now in the field ticketing?

The context is about what a WARDEN will do, not what someone might get thrown out of court.
what in the wild wild world of sports???

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2013, 05:54:46 PM »
No the courts don't ticket but it's up to the court to decide.   :tup:

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2013, 06:47:38 PM »
No the courts don't ticket but it's up to the court to decide.   :tup:

If it wasnt up to the warden to decide..........you wouldnt be in court in the first place smart guy :tup:

Take your own advise....................if you dont know the law, dont flap your gums.

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 07:07:12 PM »
Is any duck worth going to court over if you don't have to.

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2013, 05:48:53 PM »
Is any duck worth going to court over if you don't have to.

No but your rights are.  As soon as you don't exercise your rights, you loose them.   :twocents:

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2013, 11:47:14 AM »
Last season I had ducks stolen by otters, eagles, and harbor seals.  Pick them up as soon as feasibly possible.

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Re: Pick 'em up, or leave 'em lay?
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2013, 02:29:29 PM »
You are supposed to make an effort to retrieve any game you shoot, per the regs.

Lot of this happening at Ridgefield. They are gettin on every one about this.

He's right. "Make an effort" is the whole point.
I would say go get 'em with your boat or whatever as soon as you can.
It's much more ethical too.

Remember the old saying??

"A bird in the hand, is worth 2 in the bush."
Stan Marsh: "My Uncle Jimbo says we gotta get up there early. Right Uncle Jimbo?"

Jimbo: "That's right, Stanley. Animals are much easier to shoot in the morning."

 


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