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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #420 on: January 16, 2015, 05:50:41 PM »
I just got done watching the video. Very good job! I can't imagine this issue being ignored any longer.

Perfect timing too, just as a new director is taking over!
Good wasn't it!  I pumped my fist when the senator asked Todd why Cenci called the reporters and wouldn't that have put the detectives in danger!  I'm pretty sure that got the council's attention, Todd has done an unbelievable job at committing himself to this issue.   
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #421 on: January 16, 2015, 06:34:49 PM »
Just finished the video.  I'm really glad it looks like an investigation is finally going to happen.  Unbelievable how long it took just to get to this point. :o  The WDFW Commission makes me sick. :puke:

If not for Senator Pearson, where would things sit?  Thank you Todd for your perseverance!  :tup:
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #422 on: January 16, 2015, 08:25:23 PM »
I had contacted Kirk Pearson since he is my Senator and was a little disappointed that this had not been addressed earlier... However the news articles could have been just the catalyst he needed to justify calling you into a hearing.

I must say that you handled your self great AND i think its good you let them know you can spill plenty of additional dirt and have other news stories planned if they dont make some forward progress.

I bet it was hard not naming names especially when they were likely in the room watching over you.
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #423 on: January 17, 2015, 06:30:56 AM »
U.C. was the committee made aware of the court of appeals reinstating the Tarabachia suit against Cenci and the others?

Yes, it was in the binder I made for each of them

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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #424 on: January 17, 2015, 06:35:01 AM »
I had contacted Kirk Pearson since he is my Senator and was a little disappointed that this had not been addressed earlier... However the news articles could have been just the catalyst he needed to justify calling you into a hearing.

I must say that you handled your self great AND i think its good you let them know you can spill plenty of additional dirt and have other news stories planned if they dont make some forward progress.

I bet it was hard not naming names especially when they were likely in the room watching over you.

Both Pearson and Hewitt have been very helpful, and have been on top of this for some time now.
I do expect a backlash or some sort, from the pro-admin officers, but I am working off of facts not just emotion.
Things are looking far better.

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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #425 on: January 17, 2015, 06:58:39 AM »
It would seem to me that at some point wdfw admin will have to address the issues.  They tried ignoring you...not working for them.  They need to either refute your claims (with supporting evidence) or confess and describe how they are going to fix what is broken.  I hope Senators Pearson and Hewitt reach out to the new director on this matter.
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #426 on: January 17, 2015, 03:39:36 PM »
Do you think that fell on deaf ears or did it appear they were interested at all? Did you notice if anyone was taking notes at all? I hope something positive comes of your testimony and there's a big shake up in the administration. It's really sad when all the good guys are forced out early due to being fed up with the b.s.. Good job and thanks for giving up your time to do that. :tup: I hope good things happen in the real near future.

I really do, finally, think we are on the verge of real change.
I finally had the time today to view this link.  I agree that change should be on the way.  I think that you definitely had their attention and had their genuine concern.  Good job and keep it up.

Do you have email contact for those members that we can send our concerns as sportmans to them so they know this is an issue that we as sportsman and taxpayers want to see dealt with? I would love to send them something saying that I am behind your efforts and want to see more done in enforcemnent to protect the resource.
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #427 on: January 17, 2015, 04:08:34 PM »
Do you think that fell on deaf ears or did it appear they were interested at all? Did you notice if anyone was taking notes at all? I hope something positive comes of your testimony and there's a big shake up in the administration. It's really sad when all the good guys are forced out early due to being fed up with the b.s.. Good job and thanks for giving up your time to do that. :tup: I hope good things happen in the real near future.

I really do, finally, think we are on the verge of real change.
I finally had the time today to view this link.  I agree that change should be on the way.  I think that you definitely had their attention and had their genuine concern.  Good job and keep it up.

Do you have email contact for those members that we can send our concerns as sportmans to them so they know this is an issue that we as sportsman and taxpayers want to see dealt with? I would love to send them something saying that I am behind your efforts and want to see more done in enforcemnent to protect the resource.
Good idea about the emails!
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #428 on: January 18, 2015, 06:04:11 AM »
Do you think that fell on deaf ears or did it appear they were interested at all? Did you notice if anyone was taking notes at all? I hope something positive comes of your testimony and there's a big shake up in the administration. It's really sad when all the good guys are forced out early due to being fed up with the b.s.. Good job and thanks for giving up your time to do that. :tup: I hope good things happen in the real near future.

I really do, finally, think we are on the verge of real change.
I finally had the time today to view this link.  I agree that change should be on the way.  I think that you definitely had their attention and had their genuine concern.  Good job and keep it up.

Do you have email contact for those members that we can send our concerns as sportmans to them so they know this is an issue that we as sportsman and taxpayers want to see dealt with? I would love to send them something saying that I am behind your efforts and want to see more done in enforcemnent to protect the resource.

Pearson, Sen. Kirk (kirk.pearson@leg.wa.gov); maralyn.chase@leg.wa.gov (maralyn.chase@leg.wa.gov); brian.dansel@leg.wa.gov (brian.dansel@leg.wa.gov); brian.hatfield@leg.wa.gov (brian.hatfield@leg.wa.gov); rosemary.mcauliffe@leg.wa.gov (rosemary.mcauliffe@leg.wa.gov); judy.warnick@leg.wa.gov (judy.warnick@leg.wa.gov); mike.hewitt@leg.wa.gov
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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #429 on: January 18, 2015, 07:27:30 AM »
Perfect and thanks for listing these emails. I am going to send one to all of them letting them know that after reading the book and the recent articles in the papers I am a concerned outdoorsman that wants to see this dealt with and more done in enforcement to prevent and prosecute people who take advantage of the resource.  It just isn't fair so many of us to follow the rules and a have others take advantage of the lack of attention poaching gets.

Hopefully they fix the toxic environment that you and so many others had to work in.

Stay on this I really do think you are on the verge of some real change coming.

 
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

Every father should remember that one day his children will follow his example instead of his advice.


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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #430 on: January 18, 2015, 08:09:13 AM »
Perfect and thanks for listing these emails. I am going to send one to all of them letting them know that after reading the book and the recent articles in the papers I am a concerned outdoorsman that wants to see this dealt with and more done in enforcement to prevent and prosecute people who take advantage of the resource.  It just isn't fair so many of us to follow the rules and a have others take advantage of the lack of attention poaching gets.

Hopefully they fix the toxic environment that you and so many others had to work in.

Stay on this I really do think you are on the verge of some real change coming.

Thanks.  For some reason I forgot to put Senator Hewitt's email address on the last post (I updated the post and added it now).  Senators Pearson and Hewitt are the most active on this, which I really appreciate.

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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #431 on: January 20, 2015, 09:12:14 PM »
I was thinking about all this today and while I also hate Cenci I can totally see the following taking place:

The legislature/commission finally starts investigating. The commission/agency finds grounds that he can be terminated on and Crown tells Cenci what is about to happen and suddenly Cenci retires. Cenci already has his 20 LE years in and is over 50 so he can begin drawing early retirement. In about two years he'll reach the age where he can get his full benefits.

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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #432 on: January 20, 2015, 09:25:00 PM »
Cenci graduated from the police academy in May of 1990 but worked for Lewis County for a time before he entered the academy, he should be pretty close to having his 25 in....

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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #433 on: January 20, 2015, 09:30:32 PM »
Cenci graduated from the police academy in May of 1990 but worked for Lewis County for a time before he entered the academy, he should be pretty close to having his 25 in....
Only need 20 years of LE time at 50 for early retirement.

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Re: OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching
« Reply #434 on: January 20, 2015, 09:31:17 PM »
He spent  a short time with NMFS but not sure how that would affect his years of service.

 


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