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Would you guys support a left over tag drawing?  

Yes
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No
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Total Members Voted: 102

Voting closed: February 04, 2014, 12:51:13 PM

Author Topic: Left over tag drawing for Wa  (Read 13670 times)

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Left over tag drawing for Wa
« on: January 05, 2014, 12:51:14 PM »
This subject usually comes up on here about guys who draw multiple tags and end up waisting one or more of them.  My thought is this.  After guys draw their special permits and if they draw more than one of the same species, give them 2 weeks to decide which one they want.  After a period of time, the state has another drawing for the left over tags, which they could charge another app fee, revenue for them and another chance to draw for us. This way the chance of wasted tags is averted, what do you all think?
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 12:55:40 PM »
The thought of another app fee does make me want to puke in my mouth but the thought of tags going to waist is worse.
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 12:56:42 PM »
THe system we have doesn't have left over tags does it? 

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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 12:58:06 PM »
Not crazy about the additional fee, but would love to not see the tags go to waste. 

I wish there was a way they could just limit the draw.....so people can't draw multiple tag and only harvest one animal.  In my opinion you should only be able to draw one tag per species / per year.  This would keep peoples points built up in the other draws :twocents:

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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 01:01:54 PM »
I would like to see the drawings go like: when you draw ANY tag your points go to ZERO. No left over tags that way.

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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 01:08:10 PM »
THe system we have doesn't have left over tags does it?
we don't have left over tags like Idaho does.  I'm talking about the special permits that people draw that don't use because they drew more than one of the same species. 
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 01:10:55 PM »
I also agree that we shouldn't be able to draw more than one of the same species. This is just a solution to the way it is now, the wdfw won't change it because of the money apps bring in.
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 01:11:11 PM »

THe system we have doesn't have left over tags does it?
we don't have left over tags like Idaho does.  I'm talking about the special permits that people draw that don't use because they drew more than one of the same species.

Maybe you should call them 'returned tags' rather than leftovers.
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 01:13:11 PM »

THe system we have doesn't have left over tags does it?
we don't have left over tags like Idaho does.  I'm talking about the special permits that people draw that don't use because they drew more than one of the same species.

Maybe you should call them 'returned tags' rather than leftovers.
yes, that would make more sense. What do you think about the idea Josh?
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 01:19:08 PM »
I would like to see it go back to the way it was, where there weren't seats categories, that way guys out for meat aren't able to put in for qaulity tags as well, but that wont ever happen cause the new system brings in to much revenue, so would support a left over draw, and it would create more money for the wdfw, sounds like a win win for them, I am surprise they dont use that system already, of course its a good way to cut down on the actual amount of Hunter harvest. :dunno:
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 03:30:44 PM »
I don't think it should change at all.  I like being able to wait a few years to draw a branch antler tag and still get drawn for cow tags without missing opportunities at bull tags. 

I don't think having a "returned tag" drawing is a good idea.  Why should someone have to decide which tag they want to use?  If a person gets drawn for the quality bull permit in late September and doesn't shoot a bull why shouldn't they be able to hunt the late teanaway tag they got drawn for as well?  Why should they have to make a choice on which tag to keep if they were lucky enough to draw both?  People will always have something to complain about.  It would start with wdfw making you return tags for an invididual species but then people would start complaining that someone drew a quality bull tag and a quality deer tag and "that's just not fair"...

I think you are over estimating how many tags would actually get "returned".  Very few tags would get returned, lets say 30 total east side antlerless tags for instance.  Now, imagine your odds when everyone with an east side tag who didn't draw anything is applying for 30 cow tags... NOT WORTH YOUR MONEY especially if you could develop points in a "returned" category. It sucks to not get drawn but all a "returned" tag would do is make the wdfw more money it really wouldn't benefit us hunters hardly at all.

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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 03:34:51 PM »
There are a few special permit hunts where there are more permits then hunters, thus a left over, especially on the second deer permits.

I am very supportive of allowing these left over tags go to a first come, first serve sale. If anything it allows somebody to get out and hunt, and brings in more $ to WDFW.

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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 03:39:21 PM »
I would be more than supportive of "leftover tags" if there are less hunters than there are permits.  I just don't like the idea of having to return a permit you were drawn for because you were very lucky and drew more than one tag.

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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 03:50:10 PM »
I would be more than supportive of "leftover tags" if there are less hunters than there are permits.  I just don't like the idea of having to return a permit you were drawn for because you were very lucky and drew more than one tag.
I just know that tags people would love to have are going to waste.  What if they gave you the choice to keep all your tags or give some back for others to apply for?  If you had the choice to return permits and get your points back, then you would have nothing to lose. Then if I don't draw my quality tag year after year I could at least have a chance at the bull and cow tags?
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Re: Left over tag drawing for Wa
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 04:00:06 PM »
Not crazy about the additional fee, but would love to not see the tags go to waste. 

I wish there was a way they could just limit the draw.....so people can't draw multiple tag and only harvest one animal.  In my opinion you should only be able to draw one tag per species / per year.  This would keep peoples points built up in the other draws :twocents:.
In addition when you draw a special tag your points drop to zero, once you have drawn a special hunt tag you have had your chance now it is someone else's
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