HB 2342 Would Prohibit Public Access to Bodies of Water if there is No Parking

[Curly]

The construction costs, design costs, and permits associated with getting parking lots built will be prohibitive for the public agency.  I would think that pretty much zero parking areas would be built...........only signs prohibiting access would go up.  It is a bad bill.

[blackdog]

Very bad bill!

[sakoshooter]

I agree that the last section should be edited but I don't see the 'government entity' running out to post 'no trespassing' signs  nor do I see them enforcing  the trespassing prior to a parking lot being built.
What I do read is that access that has basically been denied for years could change in the near future to allow access without harassment from neighbors and other property owners.

Bobcat,  Why did this thread get moved to this location? It has to do with fishing, hiking, mushroom picking, whale watching bird watching, kayaking/canoeing etc just as much as it has to do with hunting.
I enjoy clicking on the "Virtual Campfire" section to see what's going on. I don't have the time nor the ambition to go into every section on this site to do this. Just my 

[bigtex]

Do you really think that if this bill passes that DNR, USFS, etc. is going to jump right up and start spending some of their already tight budgets building you parking areas?  Not likely. 

The feds wont be impacted. States cant tell federal agencies what to do.

But if DNR wanted to comply with state law, they better do it!

[bobcat]

Bobcat,  Why did this thread get moved to this location? It has to do with fishing, hiking, mushroom picking, whale watching bird watching, kayaking/canoeing etc just as much as it has to do with hunting.
I enjoy clicking on the "Virtual Campfire" section to see what's going on. I don't have the time nor the ambition to go into every section on this site to do this. Just my 

I moved it here because I felt this was the best fit. If you read the description for this board it says:  2nd Amendment and Sportsman related Legislation & Issues.

This is about legislation and it's sportsman related. I thought it would be better in here as it would be more likely to stay at the top, rather than getting buried under many other topics, like we have in the Virtual Campfire.

[sakoshooter]

Actually it says "Gun Rights & Hunter Alerts". But I'm glad you're trying to keep it at the top. Definitely a contradictory and confusing bill.

[bobcat]

When you're at the main forum page that has all the boards listed, the description is under "Gun Rights & Hunter Alerts."

[huntrights]

All hunters, anglers, and outdoor enthusiasts should be very concerned about restrictions on public access to our public lands and waters.  Restrictions are being imposed at an alarming rate in our National Forests, National Parks,  BLM lands, DNR lands, WDFW lands, etc.  It comes in many forms: Closed roads, decommissioned roads, locked gates, seasonal closures, limited or no access, restrictions on types of use, criminal charges if you use the land when there is not "adequate parking" (i.e. HB2342), Discover Pass, WDFW Pass, National Parks Pass, etc.

Public waters may be used for waterfowl hunting, various forms of fishing (I.e. fish, clams, crabs, oysters), various forms of boating, swimming, snorkeling, scuba diving, or just walking on the public beach.  Access to our public waters is extremely important.

[fireweed]

Sounds like this was introduced to address a local issue that local authorities need to be working on.  Swatting Mosquitoes with skud missiles. 
Instead they should streamline the permit requirements for parking areas and make parking and public access to water a priority.  One problem is public parking lots that get state grants have to have ADA access which means pavement, marked spots, etc.  How about a bill that lets them just fast-tracks gravel parking lots in areas that access water skipping the permits and applications.

[Knocker of rocks]

One problem is public parking lots that get state grants have to have ADA access which means pavement, marked spots,

Pavement would not be required.

[pianoman9701]

Still no response from Rep. Haler on this. I've called his office again and left the message that I belong to a 16,000 member hunting and fishing forum and that he might want to give us some information before we have to make up our own reasons for his sponsorship. 

[csaaphill]

very bad bill!!!!!

[pianoman9701]

Rep Haler has responded and will amend or have this bill tabled. He's been responsive and understands that it's not good as written. A legislator who understands when he's made a mistake is a lot better than one who can't admit he's wrong. Please see about my discussion with him here:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146218.msg1938670.html#new