collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: BC Wolf & Cougar Reduction: To Benefit Recovery of Mountain Caribou  (Read 23341 times)

Offline WAcoyotehunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 4457
  • Location: Pend Oreille County
Re: BC Wolf & Cougar Reduction: To Benefit Recovery of Mountain Caribou
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2014, 10:31:07 AM »
This is going to be good. They are going to reduce moose populations and prevent deer herds from growing, to try to stabilize caribous herds that by most reports are shrinking because of habitat issues. So somehow, moose and deer populations can grow in the face of increasing wolves? But caribou can't? The large moose herds and deer herds are causing the wolf population to grow? So we have to reduce deer and moose herds to shrink wolf and cougar populations so caribou populations will supposedly grow? 

But wait....... If the wolves don't have moose and deer to eat, won't they be more likely to target caribou? And conversely, if the wolves have all those deer and moose to eat, it's likely wolves aren't spending much time slaughtering caribou.

My prediction? Way too much money will be wasted on predator control and not enough on habitat restoration. Hunters will complain about a lack of moose and deer,...... and wolves and cougars and bears will be blamed even though they will be hunted mercilessly. That will be an excuse for even more "predator control". And there will be no noticeable bump upwards of the caribou herds. The net result will be less huntable animals.

If deer and moose herds are expanding and doing well, why not encourage that. Maybe this is a natural regime change.

Moose I can't speak to, but my understanding is they have in influx of white tails up there. If true, it will take a lot to kill them off. They are rats with antlers.

You and Sitka are mixing two very different places together and cherry picking to support your argument.   I can tell you haven't spent much time in BC,  EVERYTHING you write is very regurgitated and worse, cherry picked and muddled.

And I can tell you haven't spent much time around white tails. The only reason farmers don't pay people to shoot them in the eastern half of the country is because people pay them to be able to hunt them. They can''t kill enough of them.

If white tails are booming up in BC and Alberta there is a good reason why wolves are flourishing up there.

BS, we have watched the whitetail deer drop just like the mule deer, the mule deer have been hit the hardest though. Tell us A-bud, what happens when there is no more prey in an area, do the wolves move to a different area or do they start killing more livestock? Wacoyote always skirts around the question.
What do you mean I "skirt around the question"?  I know wolves can and will kill livestock.  It's not a secret. 

If prey animals get to a low enough population that hunting them is too difficult for the wolves, they will look elsewhere.  If there are cattle in the area they will probably eat them.  Again, (like always) you're not getting to any point.

Whitetail deer are not taking a beating from wolves, at all.  They're not on a downward population trend.  I'm not sure where you got that idea. 

Speaking of dancing around questions- where are all those hunting pictures of you?  What ever happened to your big court case that was going to blow this conspiracy out of the water?  Answers please.... :chuckle:

Offline Elkaholic daWg

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 6057
  • Location: Arlington Wa / Rock n Roll-Kelly Hill
Re: BC Wolf & Cougar Reduction: To Benefit Recovery of Mountain Caribou
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2014, 10:53:24 AM »
Respectfully, If Whitetails aren't taking a beating ,do you have any ideas of what has reduced the whitetail populations in the "Wedge" in the last 10 years?
Blue Ribbon Coalition
CCRKBA
SAF
NRA                        
Go DaWgs!!

Offline WAcoyotehunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 4457
  • Location: Pend Oreille County
Re: BC Wolf & Cougar Reduction: To Benefit Recovery of Mountain Caribou
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2014, 12:00:48 PM »
Sorry, I don't.  The very serious winter kill a few years ago caused the serious decline. 

The region one harvest has increased slightly since but consistently since the bad winters. 


 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Anybody breeding meat rabbit? by HighlandLofts
[Today at 08:36:13 PM]


Colorado Results by cem3434
[Today at 08:35:51 PM]


NEED ADVICE: LATE after JUNE 15th IDAHO BEAR by Sliverslinger
[Today at 08:31:23 PM]


Alaska Fishing Guide and Lodge Recommendations by Jamieb
[Today at 08:21:25 PM]


New York deer by HighlandLofts
[Today at 08:17:24 PM]


Resetting dash warning lights by Sandberm
[Today at 08:13:27 PM]


Please Report Problems & Bugs Here by Mossy
[Today at 06:17:02 PM]


What's flatbed pickup life like? by Special T
[Today at 05:52:28 PM]


Oregon spring bear by Fidelk
[Today at 04:58:27 PM]


Idaho General Season Going to Draw for Nonresidents by idahohuntr
[Today at 01:51:40 PM]


Seekins PH2 & Element sale by BigJs Outdoor Store
[Today at 12:40:26 PM]


Kokanee Fishing Tournament!! 🎣 June 13-14, Joseph OR by WRKG4GD
[Today at 11:42:02 AM]


wings wings and more wings! by birddogdad
[Today at 11:00:11 AM]


Survey in ? by hdshot
[Today at 10:55:39 AM]


Jim Horn's elk calling, instructional audio CD's. by WapitiTalk1
[Today at 09:46:03 AM]


DIY Ucluelet trip by WAcoueshunter
[Today at 07:46:51 AM]


Wyoming elk who's in? by link
[Today at 07:00:33 AM]


CVA Optima V2 durasight rail mod by craigapphunt
[Today at 05:56:00 AM]


Last year putting in… by wa.hunter
[Yesterday at 11:02:00 PM]


HUNTNNW 2025 trail cam thread and photos by huntnnw
[Yesterday at 10:34:36 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal