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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2014, 03:46:10 PM »
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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2014, 10:37:04 AM »
I work up and down the West Coast, and it irks me no end that the state in which I am most likely to experience violent crime (California, 533 violent crimes per 100,000 people / year, as opposed to 280 in Oregon and 346 in Washington) is the one that essentially prevents me from exercising my 2A rights with their draconian carry laws.  I would be fully in favor of an act that ensured the nationwide reach of the Bill of Rights, even if such an act shouldn't be necessary!   

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2014, 10:38:31 AM »
I work up and down the West Coast, and it irks me no end that the state in which I am most likely to experience violent crime (California, 533 violent crimes per 100,000 people / year, as opposed to 280 in Oregon and 346 in Washington) is the one that essentially prevents me from exercising my 2A rights with their draconian carry laws.  I would be fully in favor of an act that ensured the nationwide reach of the Bill of Rights, even if such an act shouldn't be necessary!   

After the 9th Circuit court ruling, it should be easier to get a permit there very soon, no?
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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2014, 10:52:39 AM »
The ruling was favorable indeed, but I don't think it addressed the ability of non-residents to obtain CCPs in CA, or even of California residents to obtain CCPs in counties other than their county of residence.  Maybe I need to review the ruling!  But yes, it is very much a step in the right direction, Pianoman!

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2014, 01:01:00 PM »
i wish the states would get together and make a set of standards they all states agree on thus allowing reciprocity. (background checks fingerprints, class, competency exam etc.)

 this could be a way for all the states (or those willing) to agree to a set of standards and keep the feds out of it.
problem is getting them all on the same page.

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2014, 01:09:04 PM »
personally I think your drivers license should be your CWP. I don't like the hassle of going to the sheriffs and paying a bunch of money and then paying MORE money to carry more places. Your drivers license should be enough (proof of age, name, DOB and should I say citizenship). but being THAT will never happen I say go for it NATION WIDE CWP!
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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2014, 01:54:04 PM »
So...what I'm assuming from those that think a Federal CWP is a good idea, then I would also assume that you believe that getting people like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein and other notable anti-2nd amendment bigots from Illinois, Mass., CA, etc., would produce legislation similar to, or better than, what we have today? Do you really believe that what would come out of Wash DC would be preferable to what we currently have at the state level?

I see this as a prime example of "be careful what you wish for".
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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2014, 01:57:01 PM »
personally I think your drivers license should be your CWP. I don't like the hassle of going to the sheriffs and paying a bunch of money and then paying MORE money to carry more places. Your drivers license should be enough (proof of age, name, DOB and should I say citizenship). but being THAT will never happen I say go for it NATION WIDE CWP!
Problem is some states give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. So in your case you'd be giving CWP privileges to someone that can't even possess a firearm. Even ultra Republican Utah gives DL's to illegals.

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2014, 08:27:51 AM »
personally I think your drivers license should be your CWP. I don't like the hassle of going to the sheriffs and paying a bunch of money and then paying MORE money to carry more places. Your drivers license should be enough (proof of age, name, DOB and should I say citizenship). but being THAT will never happen I say go for it NATION WIDE CWP!
Problem is some states give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. So in your case you'd be giving CWP privileges to someone that can't even possess a firearm. Even ultra Republican Utah gives DL's to illegals.

I know it would never happen but we shouldn't be giving Illegals Driver licenses. I know what your saying though, they do it now and that will probly never change. than again they broke FEDERAL law to get here what to say they are not going to break a concealed weapon law anyways? in some places its a misdemeanor slap on the wrist.
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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2014, 08:39:59 AM »
No federal laws for cc...........data bases are big enough for le to see who you are and that you have a current one from your home state and that should be that.....but instead, they would all like to get their hands in your wallet.......in a nut shell.

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2014, 09:29:34 AM »
If you don't need a permit for any 1st ammendment rights, why do you need one for any 2nd ammendment rights?

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2014, 03:20:42 PM »
Technically speaking, I believe the 2nd amendment should be the only Concealed Carry License you should need and it is valid in all 50 states.    We don't need another law, we just need acknowledgement of what we already have.

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Re: Is nation-wide reciprocity for CPL a good idea?
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2014, 03:07:21 AM »
I think it is and it would be less trouble for everyone involved including the courts if laws were consistent from state to state.
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