I just looked and it is at 1,144 signatures.
That is just over 80 signatures this past week, things are starting to taper off a bit. We need a rally push to get to the new goal of 1500.
Maybe people are thinking with their big head now the way that it should be.
Please elaborate elk 101. What was everyone thinking with before?
You have brought up some good points in a prior post, some points that would only come from someone that has some intimate knowledge of certain situations within the the wdfw.
My point was everyone thinks that the wdfw is not protecting the deer and elk when in the overall sceme of things their hands might also be tied to budgets.
I do not have any ties to wdfw other than knowing a lot of the people retired ones and hired ones
I have met Mike Cenci but that is it so I cannot say if he is good or bad I have heard views from both sides of the wardens ones that don't like him and others that do like him.
So not fair for me to judge.
Steve crown I have only seen him at a retirement party where he spoke so again I cannot not tell people what he like.
Mr. Anderson though I have known for a long time.
I will not state what he thinks as it is not my job but for people that think they can put another person in charge and think that you can go in and clean house is mistaken let them try that with in there own jobs let alone the state agency.
I have heard from a lot of sportsmen and they all think that the head people want to not let people hunt or fish and they are pushing wolves and want them ousted.
I am in the construction business an we are fighting pocket gophers wdfw has to protect them. Feds are going to list them so building will be come to a halt in Thurston county this has affected not only private but Tumwater schools and the port of Olympia. Their are Wdfw biologist that look for these endangered wildlife and fight to protect it. The wardens and head of the departments have to go by fed their views mean nothing.
Ask Idaho about their wolf plan that the feds pushed on them do you think that firing their top people would have stopped it
I don't care who you put in charge their are Issues that need to be addressed but you cannot go in and clean house and expect that some hard nose is going to get things done that will make you happy.
I have seen post that people are surprised that the director showed up at meeting state he is trying to make a good show now that they trying to get him out.
Stuff like that doesn't surprise the ones that have been around Phil. He wants to know as much about everything that he can about stuff he works on. He studies how stuff works not just WDFW stuff but from anything he owns.
I am very confident that if he gets all the facts truthfully he does the right thing.
I read Todd's book Have not discussed it Phil other than asked if he read it. Again if you want to know ask him.
I asked other people about the book also.
Lot of bad stuff in the book some of it had to do with deer and elk but a lot was other things that should also be pursued but with fed money not wdfw money why should they be dealing with paddle fish from Ok.
I quit hunting this state for Elk long ago went to Idaho have since quit because of the elk population.
Back when I hunted elk here you had to pick tag and weapon very few quality hunts
Now I have fellow workers that get multi season tags or extra cow elk tags for advance hunter cards more chances to hunt but reading the post everyone thinks it is worse now.
In 1988 when I decide to hunt elk out of state the Wa elk population was around 25000 head with a kill % 0f around 8% you got 9 days to hunt with a rifle in Nov. Then there was I think around 70000 people hunting Wa.
Think managing that many was easy.
Idaho back then had 70000 elk and 25000 hunters what is easier to manage.
So all you people that think you can go in and change things go ahead but wa st has to much population to make things pleasant for everyone.
All the wolf lovers and peta people like all this bickering because they have a better chance at getting theirs in.
