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Author Topic: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI  (Read 260556 times)

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Data mining?  Hmmmm I've used this for sorting through several thousands of accounts to find a targeted demographic and and get rid of pork.  I would have just inquired with his supervisor and probably received much of that same info. Someone must have access to some pretty expensive software and time. Interesting....

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that Happy2Hunt didn't have to do any "data mining", but rather is a very close friend or family member of Captain Myers and isn't honest enough to just say so.
I have done more than my fair share of background searching, and have never been able to come up with that detail....especially the military information (the military isn't real open with their records).

I respect the fact that Happy2Hunt is showing support for someone he or she cares about, but let's be honest when doing so.
That message was fairly insulting to the intelligence of all of us.

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Ucwarden, when you release the big bomb, will you please let us know by "updating" the title of your thread? Thanks again for all your doing!!
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Ucwarden, when you release the big bomb, will you please let us know by "updating" the title of your thread? Thanks again for all your doing!!

Absolutely, but I am sure that Happy2Hunt will data mine it out before I even release it.

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I guess it's time that I interject with a few facts that I'm almost certain that ucwarden will never bother to mention about the officer Myers that he is attempting to slander in his comments and others comments. I did some data mining myself and here are a few facts about this administrator that Crown promoted that ucwarden is referring too.  He was awarded regional officer of the year in 2004 and Washington game warden assoc. regional officer of the year in 2008. He was awarded the meritorious service pin in 2013. He was a highly respected defensive tactics instructor for WDFW and taught officers through the state how to defend and protect themselves. He later achieved the status of Master Instructor for the entire program and implemented and managed the WDFW taser training program.  While doing all of this Myers also managed to maintain his regular patrol and made hundreds of arrests and including complex investigations. When he transferred to Olympia he revamped and improved several training programs and policies as well as supervised and managed all new officers from the time they were hired until they were done with training. Myers also conducted and revamped the Fish and Wildlife Officer in house Academy as well as was the liaison with the police academy.  Oh by the way Myers is a military veteran. Who served with honor in the US Navy as a Corpsman. he also served in the Army national guard as a tank officer.   Just a few facts for you. But don't let that get in the way of your muck raking.
I did not sign UC's petition and do not support removing Director Anderson...but I do agree there are some problems with Enforcement.  All of what you describe about Meyers is absolutely meaningless.

I could care less how many merit badges, pins, and pat on the backs he got from enforcement admin.  Taser/Defense training bla bla bla...WHAT DID HE DO FOR SPORTSMEN????  He made lots of arrests??  How many other disabled and handicapped citizens did he target to show good numbers? 

I've kind of been waiting for some explanation from somebody like you who knows this officer to provide reasoned justification for this officers behavior...and given that all you can muster is some merit badges and proficiency in using a taser I definitely think the article UC posted is probably a fair representation of what actually happened.  Meyers is a disgrace and should be fired.   :twocents: 
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And if that is just the tip of the iceburg some one is infor a really cold dip in the deep end of the pool!
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I guess it's time that I interject with a few facts that I'm almost certain that ucwarden will never bother to mention about the officer Myers that he is attempting to slander in his comments and others comments. I did some data mining myself and here are a few facts about this administrator that Crown promoted that ucwarden is referring too.  He was awarded regional officer of the year in 2004 and Washington game warden assoc. regional officer of the year in 2008. He was awarded the meritorious service pin in 2013. He was a highly respected defensive tactics instructor for WDFW and taught officers through the state how to defend and protect themselves. He later achieved the status of Master Instructor for the entire program and implemented and managed the WDFW taser training program.  While doing all of this Myers also managed to maintain his regular patrol and made hundreds of arrests and including complex investigations. When he transferred to Olympia he revamped and improved several training programs and policies as well as supervised and managed all new officers from the time they were hired until they were done with training. Myers also conducted and revamped the Fish and Wildlife Officer in house Academy as well as was the liaison with the police academy.  Oh by the way Myers is a military veteran. Who served with honor in the US Navy as a Corpsman. he also served in the Army national guard as a tank officer.   Just a few facts for you. But don't let that get in the way of your muck raking.
I did not sign UC's petition and do not support removing Director Anderson...but I do agree there are some problems with Enforcement.  All of what you describe about Meyers is absolutely meaningless.

I could care less how many merit badges, pins, and pat on the backs he got from enforcement admin.  Taser/Defense training bla bla bla...WHAT DID HE DO FOR SPORTSMEN????  He made lots of arrests??  How many other disabled and handicapped citizens did he target to show good numbers? 

I've kind of been waiting for some explanation from somebody like you who knows this officer to provide reasoned justification for this officers behavior...and given that all you can muster is some merit badges and proficiency in using a taser I definitely think the article UC posted is probably a fair representation of what actually happened.  Meyers is a disgrace and should be fired.   :twocents:

Good post, IDhuntr.   :tup:

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Wow notice how ucwarden lashes out and attacks the messenger when he is presented with facts that don't fit his sad little narrative?  This is often the tactics taken by the weak and small minded. Please hurry and drop this " bomb" that you elude to. I have a feeling it will be much like what I know about your life and career....a dud. But hopefully it will be useable in the lawsuit to provide another example of how you are attempting to defame someone. See and the more that the forum cronies pile on the easier it is to prove damages to reputation.  Hey ucwarden, please tell us why you decided to target Myers.  Your attacks seem personal. He's not the chief or deputy chief or director?  What's your reason for these unprovoked attacks against a decorated military veteran who served his state and country with honor? Do you hate yourself as much as you appear to hate others? Are you angry because of your own long list of shortcomings and failures and are just projecting them on to others? Your reply should be fascinating.

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I guess it's time that I interject with a few facts that I'm almost certain that ucwarden will never bother to mention about the officer Myers that he is attempting to slander in his comments and others comments. I did some data mining myself and here are a few facts about this administrator that Crown promoted that ucwarden is referring too.  He was awarded regional officer of the year in 2004 and Washington game warden assoc. regional officer of the year in 2008. He was awarded the meritorious service pin in 2013. He was a highly respected defensive tactics instructor for WDFW and taught officers through the state how to defend and protect themselves. He later achieved the status of Master Instructor for the entire program and implemented and managed the WDFW taser training program.  While doing all of this Myers also managed to maintain his regular patrol and made hundreds of arrests and including complex investigations. When he transferred to Olympia he revamped and improved several training programs and policies as well as supervised and managed all new officers from the time they were hired until they were done with training. Myers also conducted and revamped the Fish and Wildlife Officer in house Academy as well as was the liaison with the police academy.  Oh by the way Myers is a military veteran. Who served with honor in the US Navy as a Corpsman. he also served in the Army national guard as a tank officer.   Just a few facts for you. But don't let that get in the way of your muck raking.
I did not sign UC's petition and do not support removing Director Anderson...but I do agree there are some problems with Enforcement.  All of what you describe about Meyers is absolutely meaningless.

I could care less how many merit badges, pins, and pat on the backs he got from enforcement admin.  Taser/Defense training bla bla bla...WHAT DID HE DO FOR SPORTSMEN????  He made lots of arrests??  How many other disabled and handicapped citizens did he target to show good numbers? 

I've kind of been waiting for some explanation from somebody like you who knows this officer to provide reasoned justification for this officers behavior...and given that all you can muster is some merit badges and proficiency in using a taser I definitely think the article UC posted is probably a fair representation of what actually happened.  Meyers is a disgrace and should be fired.   :twocents:

Good post, IDhuntr.   :tup:

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No.  she should have raised a better son...I feel bad for the mother of the disabled boy who was ticketed though.

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Wow notice how ucwarden lashes out and attacks the messenger when he is presented with facts that don't fit his sad little narrative?  This is often the tactics taken by the weak and small minded. Please hurry and drop this " bomb" that you elude to. I have a feeling it will be much like what I know about your life and career....a dud. But hopefully it will be useable in the lawsuit to provide another example of how you are attempting to defame someone. See and the more that the forum cronies pile on the easier it is to prove damages to reputation.  Hey ucwarden, please tell us why you decided to target Myers.  Your attacks seem personal. He's not the chief or deputy chief or director?  What's your reason for these unprovoked attacks against a decorated military veteran who served his state and country with honor? Do you hate yourself as much as you appear to hate others? Are you angry because of your own long list of shortcomings and failures and are just projecting them on to others? Your reply should be fascinating.

Happy2Hunt:

Thanks for that response, it brought a smile to my face.
 
First of all, I want to again offer that if you would like to talk person to person, send me an email or call.  This forum is not really best suited for two people talking back and forth.
Next I am a bit confused by how you perceive that "ucwarden lashes out and attacks the messenger", as I only pointed out the fact that it certainly appeared that you were misrepresenting how you knew all this information about Captain Myers, when you said you did some "mining" for information, when I suspect (I don't know for sure) that you are either Captain Myers or a relative (wife?).  I can't see how that is lashing out or attacking "the messenger".

Also, while you are reminding us to not attack the messenger, remember that all I did was post a clip from a newspaper....I didn't write the article, I was just the messenger.  Maybe you should sue the reporter who wrote the article (his name is on the article).

I assume your last response (above) was largely driven by emotion, as you certainly attacked me, but I would rather stick to facts.
If you were attempting to bait me, with your threat of a lawsuit and personal attacks, that bait was about as effective as beef jerky would be for fishing.
Sorry if this response disappoints you, but I am not quite the anger filled person you portray me to be.  I just want to see justice, and morality applied, and want the best for the fine officers of WDFW and the resources. 


 
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 03:44:40 PM by ucwarden »

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I am guessing that was not the response Happy2Hunt was expecting, it was pretty close to the response I would expect from UC. Nice job of not slinging any mud UC.  :tup:  It made my day to see you stand tall and not lower yourself, great request for a personal conversation also, way to take the high road.  :tup:
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I am guessing that was not the response Happy2Hunt was expecting, it was pretty close to the response I would expect from UC. Nice job of not slinging any mud UC.  :tup:  It made my day to see you stand tall and not lower yourself, great request for a personal conversation also, way to take the high road.  :tup:

Thanks.  While there will certainly be some hurt feeling and anger aimed my way soon, it is not my intention to smear anyone.  I intend to address on-duty issues only; what we as license purchasers expect of WDFW employees.  I have lot's of personal feelings about some of the WDFW administrators, but try my best to stay focused on their work failures and/or wrong-doing, rather than attacking them personally. 
 
Assuming that Happy2Hunt is Myers' wife (and I really don't know) then I fully understand defending her man, but it's kind of hard to criticize someone when you make nasty comments and threats about them.
 

 


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