PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI

[grundy53]

Wow notice how ucwarden lashes out and attacks the messenger when he is presented with facts that don't fit his sad little narrative?  This is often the tactics taken by the weak and small minded. Please hurry and drop this " bomb" that you elude to. I have a feeling it will be much like what I know about your life and career....a dud. But hopefully it will be useable in the lawsuit to provide another example of how you are attempting to defame someone. See and the more that the forum cronies pile on the easier it is to prove damages to reputation.  Hey ucwarden, please tell us why you decided to target Myers.  Your attacks seem personal. He's not the chief or deputy chief or director?  What's your reason for these unprovoked attacks against a decorated military veteran who served his state and country with honor? Do you hate yourself as much as you appear to hate others? Are you angry because of your own long list of shortcomings and failures and are just projecting them on to others? Your reply should be fascinating.

Nice try. But trust me, you are really making YOURSELF look bad. Not UCwarden. You just lost what little credibility you had with this post.

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[Gringo31]

I am finding this amusing.   


Seems like a defense expert would be better at defending himself.

On two sides of this coin, we apparently have two sides of people in the know.  One who see's the problem, is looking for solutions and willing to put effort into improvement......while the other side writes tickets to retarded kids, can't see that the issue was writing tickets to retarded kids and now feels it must be personal, gets promoted because he is good at training people how to use a taser and plans to sue UC for posting a news article that showed good people helping a kid out who was dealt a crappy hand by Myers.   

 

[baker5150]

Wow notice how ucwarden lashes out and attacks the messenger when he is presented with facts that don't fit his sad little narrative?  This is often the tactics taken by the weak and small minded. Please hurry and drop this " bomb" that you elude to. I have a feeling it will be much like what I know about your life and career....a dud. But hopefully it will be useable in the lawsuit to provide another example of how you are attempting to defame someone. See and the more that the forum cronies pile on the easier it is to prove damages to reputation.  Hey ucwarden, please tell us why you decided to target Myers.  Your attacks seem personal. He's not the chief or deputy chief or director?  What's your reason for these unprovoked attacks against a decorated military veteran who served his state and country with honor? Do you hate yourself as much as you appear to hate others? Are you angry because of your own long list of shortcomings and failures and are just projecting them on to others? Your reply should be fascinating.

Nice try. But trust me, you are really making YOURSELF look bad. Not UCwarden. You just lost what little credibility you had with this post.

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I agree,  Stating facts about Myers service acheivments is all good and well ( and should be stated, because it is relevant) 
but attacking uc for attacking, when he wasn't attacking? 

Not to also be attacking   

attacking

[idahohuntr]

Happy2Hunt:

Rather than attack UC perhaps you could provide us the scenario and circumstances in which it is appropriate to ticket a mentally handicapped or disabled member of society for not having proper licenses for fishing?

If you came on here and said Myers had no choice, there is no officer discretion allowed in these situations bla bla bla...maybe there would be a fraction of doubt that this Myers isn't a complete POS. 

But to come on here, attack UC, and cite some awards and taser training to support Myers as being a stand up guy is really quite laughable...except we are talking about some pretty disgusting behavior by Myers.  When you said Myers served this state with "honor" it made me want to puke.

Oh, and I really wish you well with your little lawsuit threat  If you decide to pursue legal action for slander/defamation etc. against UC (or the author of the article) it sounds to me like not only will you end up remaining pathetic, you will also find yourself broke. 

[bigtex]

I have a feeling it will be much like what I know about your life and career....a dud.

Anybody that knows Vandivert knows his career was not "a dud." I've said it before, when Todd was awarded WDFW Officer of the year when he was still on patrol he not only made several hundred cases in one year but didn't receive a single complaint, and even had some violators send a letter in saying how fairly they were treated. As a law enforcement officer myself I know that you may be the most courteous person alive, but if you give someone a ticket they may just file a complaint even if it had no backing. The fact that Todd made that many cases and somehow didn't get a single complaint tells you how good of an officer he is, but also how respectable of a person he is.

Todd is known not only for his excellence in natural resource law enforcement, but law enforcement in general. It would be interesting to see how many current/former WDFW Officers (field officers, not Captains or HQ staff) would call Todd's career "a dud."

[Tbar]

Well said bigtex.
 I know many Leos and several that have had first hand dealings with ucwarden. All seem to have one common perception, respect, period.  A  great measure is how you are judged by your peers. I can also say that they all haven't been friends or even liked him but all respected him.
Happy2hunt I have no dog in this fight but am seriously appalled by the article when the handicapped person was cited, so please defend this single action (please don't downplay it as isolated or put a statute of limitations on it). I have seen single actions end careers on several occasions and this would definitely be justified (imho).

[SCRUBS]

I am finding this amusing.   

 

[SCRUBS]

That's not Officer Myers. Just a heads up.
LOL.

So it`s your gimmick account

[Tbar]

Happy2hunt, I can only think of one person who thinks ucwardens career was a dud. Any guesses? 

[snowpack]

I didn't regard the newspaper article posted as something to highlight Meyers, but as something pointed out regarding what WDFW high command considers acceptable.  If the supervisors had stepped in, possibly it could've been resolved before heading to court.  But instead the WDFW gives the perception that it seems approves of that kind of citation, AND even rewards an officer for it.  Meanwhile, we have serious wildlife offenders operating across the state that they don't seem to want to make an effort to investigate.  Other examples are rubbing cotton balls over pinched barbs, citing a dad for helping a young child land a fish, etc.   

[Curly]

Snowpack hit the nail on the head there. 

[billythekidrock]

I didn't regard the newspaper article posted as something to highlight Meyers, but as something pointed out regarding what WDFW high command considers acceptable.  If the supervisors had stepped in, possibly it could've been resolved before heading to court.  But instead the WDFW gives the perception that it seems approves of that kind of citation, AND even rewards an officer for it.  Meanwhile, we have serious wildlife offenders operating across the state that they don't seem to want to make an effort to investigate.  Other examples are rubbing cotton balls over pinched barbs, citing a dad for helping a young child land a fish, etc.   

Does that really happen?

[Cascade]

Yes it does.  It happened to me on the Tieton river about 5 years ago while fly fishing.


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[billythekidrock]

I am guessing that was not the response Happy2Hunt was expecting, it was pretty close to the response I would expect from UC. Nice job of not slinging any mud UC.    It made my day to see you stand tall and not lower yourself, great request for a personal conversation also, way to take the high road. 

Thanks.  While there will certainly be some hurt feeling and anger aimed my way soon, it is not my intention to smear anyone.  I intend to address on-duty issues only; what we as license purchasers expect of WDFW employees.  I have lot's of personal feelings about some of the WDFW administrators, but try my best to stay focused on their work failures and/or wrong-doing, rather than attacking them personally. 
 
Assuming that Happy2Hunt is Myers' wife (and I really don't know) then I fully understand defending her man, but it's kind of hard to criticize someone when you make nasty comments and threats about them.
 

If this is the case then I understand as well, but it would have been nice to have the information without the "data mining" bs.

[ucwarden]

I have a feeling it will be much like what I know about your life and career....a dud.

Anybody that knows Vandivert knows his career was not "a dud." I've said it before, when Todd was awarded WDFW Officer of the year when he was still on patrol he not only made several hundred cases in one year but didn't receive a single complaint, and even had some violators send a letter in saying how fairly they were treated. As a law enforcement officer myself I know that you may be the most courteous person alive, but if you give someone a ticket they may just file a complaint even if it had no backing. The fact that Todd made that many cases and somehow didn't get a single complaint tells you how good of an officer he is, but also how respectable of a person he is.

Todd is known not only for his excellence in natural resource law enforcement, but law enforcement in general. It would be interesting to see how many current/former WDFW Officers (field officers, not Captains or HQ staff) would call Todd's career "a dud."

Thanks Bigtex.  People are going to think we are related......dad