Weyerhauser St. Helens Tree Farm

[bowhuntersd]

This whole thing just pisses me off.    . Weyco gets tax breaks for leaving their lands open to the public "X" amount of day a year. The only thing I can think of, is that the total $'s from the sale of permits ($2,250,00.00 just for the St. Helens tree farm) out ways the tax break they where getting for this property. 

[fireweed]

This whole thing just pisses me off.    . Weyco gets tax breaks for leaving their lands open to the public "X" amount of day a year. The only thing I can think of, is that the total $'s from the sale of permits ($2,250,00.00 just for the St. Helens tree farm) out ways the tax break they where getting for this property. 

They are hoping to keep double-dipping, tax breaks AND charge.  They are playing chicken with the legislature.  They figure the legislature is filled with "chickens" who won't even consider touching the sacred tax breaks.

[pianoman9701]

The legislature is filled with people elected on WEYCO money. How do you think that'll work for us?

[fireweed]

For anyone in Cowlitz Co. there is a petition being distributed and it is at several local businesses.  It asks the county commissioners to do what they can.

This will be a campaign issue for sure this November.  it's still one person--one vote no matter how much cash business dumps in.  Find out where the candidates stand and if they will consider putting in a bill to tie full tax breaks to free public access

[bobcat]

I'm actually afraid of what might happen if they try to force the timber companies into allowing free access.

What it would mean is closed gates 100% of the time. The "access" would be walk in only, and that would be worse overall than having to pay a relatively small fee for drive in access anytime you want.

I do wish we could get some legislation passed that would allow the state to more easily obtain easements across private land in order to access landlocked public land.

[hooker]

Ok,

One permit gets my family and grandkids access?   My kids are all in their early twentys..

If I draw "say" a coweeman cow tag will I then beable to purchase a permit?   I'm not interested unless we happen to draw a tag.

Thanks
H

[bobcat]

Ok,

One permit gets my family and grandkids access?   My kids are all in their early twentys..

If I draw "say" a coweeman cow tag will I then beable to purchase a permit?   I'm not interested unless we happen to draw a tag.

Thanks
H

Your permit would get you and your grandkids in, but not your kids since they're over 18. And to your second question, yes the St Helens access permits go up for sale after the results for the special permit hunts will become available, so you could buy the access permit if you are drawn for a Coweeman cow permit. They are offering 15,000 access permits, so I don't even think you'd have to worry about buying it right away. I don't see them selling out.

[hooker]

BC,

Thanks

[bobcat]

The good news is: Margaret, Toutle, Coweeman, and Winston permits should be much easier to draw this year (if people are paying attention).

[Ghost Hunter]

this is why I put in for Mt. Whittier with 1 point.  Odds of drawing are the same as if I'll buy an access permit.

[arrowflinger]

I will not be volunteering as a MH to help with clean-up or monitoring their woods ever again. Slap in the face. 

Me neither!!

[HntnFsh]

The good news is: Margaret, Toutle, Coweeman, and Winston permits should be much easier to draw this year (if people are paying attention).

Do you think the access fees will keep enough people from applying that it will make a difference?  I dont think it will. But we'll see.

[Bookworm007]

Is this also going to effect the Lewis River unit? WDFW didn't put a "Q" by it in the regs so I am going to assume they won't be charging there? 

Also they put a "Q" by mudflow...... can't you get in there from the Toutle side on state land? Regardless this really stinks, they are taking away an american past time because of a few bad apples. My camp has 6 guys in it and we will start hunting out of state before we pay Weyco any money to hunt a state resource.

[bobcat]

Isn't Lewis River mostly National Forest?


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[pianoman9701]

Is this also going to effect the Lewis River unit? WDFW didn't put a "Q" by it in the regs so I am going to assume they won't be charging there? 

Also they put a "Q" by mudflow...... can't you get in there from the Toutle side on state land? Regardless this really stinks, they are taking away an american past time because of a few bad apples. My camp has 6 guys in it and we will start hunting out of state before we pay Weyco any money to hunt a state resource.

Much of Lewis River is NF. If the part you're planning to hunt is WEYCO, you'll probably need a permit. I don't think they've announced yet where the free access is.