Weyerhauser St. Helens Tree Farm

[Bullkllr]

and I wouldn't mind at all if they closed it all down to walk in only if it was still free. thats how early archery season always was. They wouldn't open the gates til after modern went in.

In my opinion, it'll be a zoo in there during early archery, since gates will likely all be open. Not for me...

[pianoman9701]

I wonder if "tree huggers" and groups like our friends from PETA can put a hurtin on us by buying up a large number permits.

If you don't buy one, what the tree huggers and PETA do won't affect you at all.

[snowpack]

No they prevent the people that would buy them from hunting there and making them hunt elsewhere...maybe where he is hunting.

[pianoman9701]

I've not heard of this happening anywhere.

[mpetersen]

What really gets me worried about this plan is looking at what weyco has been doing in the southern states. Log on to the weyco website and it looks like it is entirely big money leases and hunt clubs. I've got to believe weyco is going this direction in Washington and access permits are just their way of getting us prepared for the future. Guess we will find out if they start raising prices every year or two and increase the number of leased tracts. Looks bad for future generations of hunters unless they or their daddies can fork out thousands for access. 

[WDFW Hates ME!!!]

I am just saying no. I will not buy an access permit. No way no how. They can suck an egg.

[Big6bull]

I'd probly consider it more if there was less of hoof rot issue. And if there was no pesticide spraying. I thought camping rights were already decided to go along with them?

[bobcat]

So far there's no information on Weyerhaeuser's website as to whether permit holders will be allowed to camp on the St Helens tree farm. But, they did say the website would be updated May 19th. (Tomorrow)


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[CplRaines]

The way I read the info at this site - https://www.wyrecreationnw.com/Permits/PropertyPage_Longview.aspx
the $150 access fee only gets you access, not camping. If you bid on and received one of the bid properties/leases, only then you would get camping privileges.

[bobcat]

It doesn't say one way or the other. It does say no camping is allowed but that is in the information for access without a permit (before August 1st.)


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[TheHunt]

If they allow camping there will be people camping right in the middle of the good areas as well as on the landings.  So all they have to do is just look out side their camper/trailer for elk or deer. 

Should be interesting times...   15,000 people all camped on all the landings. 

[bobcat]

With elk hunting being by permit only in Toutle and Margaret, I would think there wouldn't be that many people camping all at the same time in those units. Winston might be a different story!

My guess is camping won't be allowed with the high number of permits they are selling. Vail and Pe Ell are allowing camping but those access permits are much more limited. Hopefully we will find out tomorrow.


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[TheHunt]

I am talking about the Winston

[Quarteredaway]

and I wouldn't mind at all if they closed it all down to walk in only if it was still free. thats how early archery season always was. They wouldn't open the gates til after modern went in.
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I will pay for the pass if they make it walk in only for all weapons... it would certainly increase the quality of game

[Bullkllr]

and I wouldn't mind at all if they closed it all down to walk in only if it was still free. thats how early archery season always was. They wouldn't open the gates til after modern went in.

I will pay for the pass if they make it walk in only for all weapons... it would certainly increase the quality of game
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That's exactly what I was thinking. If they allow vehicle access, the whole place turns into a zoo.